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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Andrey Gruzdev <andrey.gruzdev@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Den Lunev <den@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/7] support UFFD write fault processing in ram_save_iterate()
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 16:34:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201123213443.GE60522@xz-x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c222b7ca-9368-3adc-00fd-5261216f7df1@virtuozzo.com>

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 07:53:34PM +0300, Andrey Gruzdev wrote:
> On 20.11.2020 19:43, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 07:15:07PM +0300, Andrey Gruzdev wrote:
> > > Yeah, I think we can re-use the postcopy queue code for faulting pages. I'm
> > > worring a little about some additional overhead dealing with urgent request
> > > semaphore. Also, the code won't change a lot, something like:
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > >          /* In case of 'write-tracking' migration we first try
> > >           * to poll UFFD and sse if we have write page fault event */
> > >          poll_fault_page(rs);
> > > 
> > >          again = true;
> > >          found = get_queued_page(rs, &pss);
> > > 
> > >          if (!found) {
> > >              /* priority queue empty, so just search for something dirty */
> > >              found = find_dirty_block(rs, &pss, &again);
> > >          }
> > > [...]
> > 
> > Could I ask what's the "urgent request semaphore"?  Thanks,
> > 
> 
> These function use it (the correct name is 'rate_limit_sem'):
> 
> void migration_make_urgent_request(void)
> {
>     qemu_sem_post(&migrate_get_current()->rate_limit_sem);
> }
> 
> void migration_consume_urgent_request(void)
> {
>     qemu_sem_wait(&migrate_get_current()->rate_limit_sem);
> }
> 
> They are called from ram_save_queue_pages and unqueue_page, accordingly, to
> control migration rate limiter.
> 
> bool migration_rate_limit(void)
> {
> [...]
>         /*
>          * Wait for a delay to do rate limiting OR
>          * something urgent to post the semaphore.
>          */
>         int ms = s->iteration_start_time + BUFFER_DELAY - now;
>         trace_migration_rate_limit_pre(ms);
>         if (qemu_sem_timedwait(&s->rate_limit_sem, ms) == 0) {
>             /*
>              * We were woken by one or more urgent things but
>              * the timedwait will have consumed one of them.
>              * The service routine for the urgent wake will dec
>              * the semaphore itself for each item it consumes,
>              * so add this one we just eat back.
>              */
>             qemu_sem_post(&s->rate_limit_sem);
>             urgent = true;
>         }
> [...]
> }
> 

Hmm... Why its overhead could be a problem?  If it's an overhead that can be
avoided, then postcopy might want that too.

The thing is I really feel like the snapshot logic can leverage the whole idea
of existing postcopy (like get_queued_page/unqueue_page; it's probably due to
the fact that both of them want to "migrate some more urgent pages than the
background migration, due to either missing/wrprotected pages"), but I might
have something missing.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-23 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-19 12:59 [PATCH v3 0/7] UFFD write-tracking migration/snapshots Andrey Gruzdev via
2020-11-19 12:59 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] introduce 'track-writes-ram' migration capability Andrey Gruzdev via
2020-11-19 18:51   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-19 19:07     ` Peter Xu
2020-11-20 11:35       ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-24 16:55       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-24 17:25         ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-20 11:32     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-19 12:59 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] introduce UFFD-WP low-level interface helpers Andrey Gruzdev via
2020-11-19 18:39   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-20 11:04     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-20 15:01       ` Peter Xu
2020-11-20 15:43         ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-24 17:57   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-25  8:11     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-25 18:43       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-25 19:17         ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-19 12:59 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] support UFFD write fault processing in ram_save_iterate() Andrey Gruzdev via
2020-11-19 18:25   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-20 10:44     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-20 15:07       ` Peter Xu
2020-11-20 16:15         ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-20 16:43           ` Peter Xu
2020-11-20 16:53             ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-23 21:34               ` Peter Xu [this message]
2020-11-24  8:02                 ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-24 15:17                   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-24 17:40                     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-25 13:08   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-25 14:40     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-25 18:41       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-25 19:12         ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-19 12:59 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] implementation of write-tracking migration thread Andrey Gruzdev via
2020-11-19 18:47   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-20 11:41     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-19 12:59 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] implementation of vm_start() BH Andrey Gruzdev via
2020-11-19 18:46   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-20 11:13     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-19 12:59 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] the rest of write tracking migration code Andrey Gruzdev via
2020-11-19 12:59 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] introduce simple linear scan rate limiting mechanism Andrey Gruzdev via
2020-11-19 20:02   ` Peter Xu
2020-11-20 12:06     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2020-11-20 15:23       ` Peter Xu
2020-11-24 16:41 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] UFFD write-tracking migration/snapshots Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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