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From: Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Roman Bolshakov <r.bolshakov@yadro.com>,
	Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-6.0 6/6] qapi: Deprecate 'query-kvm'
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 11:09:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201130100901.GJ105758@angien.pipo.sk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zh2zi4jf.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:21:08 +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 16:44:05 +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com> writes:

[...]

> > I know it's hard to enforce, but probably the cheapest in terms of
> > drawbacks any other solution would be.
> 
> We can and should try.  
> 
> Can we flag problematic interface changes automatically?  Semantic
> changes, no.  What about changes visible in query-qmp-schema?

I don't know the internals of qemu good enough, but from the perspective
of an user of 'query-qmp-schema' it might be possible but not without
additional tooling.

The output of query-qmp-schema is basically unreviewable when we are
updating it. A small change in the schema may trigger a re-numbering of
the internal type names so the result is a giant messy piece of JSON
where it's impossible to differentiate changes from churn.

I've played with generating/expanding all the possibilites and thus
stripping the internal numbering for a tool which would simplify writing
the query strings (a libvirtism for querying whether the QMP schema has
something [1]). This tool could be used in this case to generate a fully
expanded and sorted list which should in most cases be append only when
new stuff is added. This could be then used to see whether something
changed when we'd store the output and compare it against the new one.

Unfortunately that would just make query-qmp-schema dumps more
reviewable in libvirt though. A change in an interface would be noticed
only after it hits qemu upstream.

[1] https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/blob/08ae9e5f40f8bae0c3cf48f84181884ddd310fa0/src/qemu/qemu_qapi.c#L392
    https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/blob/08ae9e5f40f8bae0c3cf48f84181884ddd310fa0/src/qemu/qemu_capabilities.c#L1512



  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-30 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-16 13:10 [PATCH for-6.0 0/6] Add HMP/QMP commands to query accelerator Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-16 13:10 ` [PATCH for-6.0 1/6] qapi: Add query-accel command Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-16 16:20   ` Eric Blake
2020-11-16 18:56     ` Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-16 21:13     ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-11-17  8:51       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-18  1:19         ` Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-18  8:36           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-18  9:21             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-18 13:08               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-18 13:46                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-18 14:45                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-18 14:54                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-18 14:00                 ` Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-18 11:28             ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-18 11:56               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-18 13:53                 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-18 15:45                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-11-18 15:56                     ` Eric Blake
2020-11-18 16:23                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-11-19 13:17                         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-30 17:05   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-11-16 13:10 ` [PATCH for-6.0 2/6] qapi: Rename KvmInfo to AccelInfo Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-27 10:40   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-27 12:08     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-16 13:10 ` [PATCH for-6.0 3/6] qapi: Use qmp_query_accel() in qmp_query_kvm() Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-16 13:10 ` [PATCH for-6.0 4/6] softmmu: Remove kvm_available() Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-16 13:10 ` [PATCH for-6.0 5/6] hmp: Add 'info accel' command Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-27 10:39   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-11-16 13:10 ` [PATCH for-6.0 6/6] qapi: Deprecate 'query-kvm' Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-27 10:50   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-27 11:21     ` Peter Krempa
2020-11-27 11:45       ` Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-27 12:18         ` Peter Krempa
2020-11-27 15:44           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-27 16:30             ` Peter Krempa
2020-11-30  9:21               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-30 10:09                 ` Peter Krempa [this message]
2020-11-30 16:03                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-30 15:30               ` Eric Blake
2020-11-27 15:53           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-27 16:35             ` Peter Krempa
2020-11-19 14:41 ` [PATCH for-6.0 0/6] Add HMP/QMP commands to query accelerator Claudio Fontana
2020-11-19 15:46   ` Roman Bolshakov
2020-11-19 15:54     ` Claudio Fontana

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