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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: lvivier@redhat.com, thuth@redhat.com, pkrempa@redhat.com,
	berrange@redhat.com, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, libvir-list@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	jasowang@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com,
	kraxel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 16:15:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201203151532.GA5409@merkur.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54637ad5-0662-24ea-d738-1d53e054a103@redhat.com>

Am 03.12.2020 um 12:11 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> On 02/12/20 18:35, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > Could we have an intermediate state that doesn't require any
> > > duplication and thus have no separate code paths that could
> > > diverge?
> > 
> > The one requirement we have for an intermediate state is that it
> > supports both interfaces: The well-know create/set properties/realize
> > dance, and a new DeviceClass method, say .create(), that takes the
> > configuration in parameters instead of relying on previously set
> > properties.
> > 
> > I assumed two separate implementations of transferring the configuration
> > into the internal state. On second thought, this assumption is maybe
> > wrong.
> > 
> > You can implement the new method as wrapper around the old way: It could
> > just set all the properties and call realize. Of course, you don't win
> > much in terms of improving the class implementation this way, but just
> > support the new interface, but I guess it can be a reasonable
> > intermediate step to resolve complicated dependencies etc.
> 
> I sketched something at https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/QOM-QAPI_integration.
> 
> The main difference with what we discussed so far is that it doesn't subsume
> the complete/realize step, only the setting of properties.  The idea is that
> user_creatable_add_type does the following:
> 
> - calls an oc->configure method on every superclass of the object
> 
> - takes what's left of the input visitor and uses it to set properties
> 
> - then calls ucc->complete
> 
> So in the end the only new step is the first.  If the first two steps are
> bundled in a new function object_configure, they can be reused for devices,
> machines and accelerators.
> 
> The QAPI code generator can also easily wrap them into a C API for QOM
> object creation.
> 
> I glossed completely over the generation of properties within the QAPI code
> generator.  Making properties read-only (or, in the field-properties world,
> having a default allow_set of "return false") is already a nice improvement
> over

I don't think this is an intermediate state like Eduardo wants to have.
Creating the object, then setting properties, then realize [1] will fail
after your change. But keeping it working was the whole point of the
exercise.

I'm also not really sure why you go from RngEgdOptions to QObject to a
visitor, only to reconstruct RngEgdOptions at the end. I think the class
implementations should have a normal C interface without visitors and we
should be able to just pass the existing RngEgdOptions object (or the
individual values for its fields for 'boxed': false).

Kevin

[1] Or complete for ucc, but the number of these is small enough that we
    don't really need any intermediate state, except maybe as a proof of
    concept for the later qdev conversion.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-03 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-30 12:25 [PATCH 00/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 01/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for iothread Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 15:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 15:54     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for authz-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 03/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for cryptodev-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 04/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for dbus-vmstate Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 05/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for memory-backend-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 06/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for rng-*, deprecate 'opened' Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 07/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for throttle-group Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 08/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for secret*, deprecate 'loaded' Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 09/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for tls-*, " Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 10/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for can-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 11/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for colo-compare Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 12/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for filter-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 13/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for pr-manager-helper Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 14/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for sev-guest Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 15/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for input-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 16/18] tests: Drop 'props' from object-add calls Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 17/18] qapi/qom: Drop deprecated 'props' from object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 18/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 14:58 ` [PATCH 00/18] " Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 15:30   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-30 16:13     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 16:52       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-30 16:32     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01  8:36       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-30 15:46   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 16:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 18:10       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 19:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 16:20           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-01 17:16             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 18:28               ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-01 19:35               ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-01 21:23                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 22:08                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02  9:30                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 10:38                       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 12:30                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 12:51                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 13:26                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 13:54                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 15:17                             ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 16:05                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 17:35                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 19:45                                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03  6:46                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-12-03 14:58                                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03 11:11                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 15:15                                     ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2020-12-03 16:50                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 17:43                                         ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-03 18:01                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 17:52                                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03 18:10                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 18:19                                             ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 10:27                   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 12:41                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 18:58 ` Peter Krempa

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