From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F015C433FE for ; Thu, 3 Dec 2020 17:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B15FF206CB for ; Thu, 3 Dec 2020 17:39:47 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org B15FF206CB Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Received: from localhost ([::1]:54708 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kksa0-0000AN-Ng for qemu-devel@archiver.kernel.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 12:39:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57148) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kksR4-0003tg-9y for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 12:30:31 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([216.205.24.124]:57178) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kksQy-0005ja-Ih for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 12:30:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1607016621; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=xMjdhHy4gelJX1eHc2KGU3s0wWKi4G8Z+bAnhkPpjqE=; b=ewn7kARa8wvyq/Q7GIdRJJK9ZLJh9XjBFnQ5adaNC5Xw18qFdh1WoTbP0L7CsK1eB2xW9r 9s83Z2RroLNh7h81En5IYOOKp+916ikxUyewBxZKVgnHRRihOD3L4nOsVnA+y5vtUD/snT Ky7VoYWA2MGF6zJSTVTiOvw7ajbhTsk= Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-507-_YFoSxrfMhKRxZhkaNQ5ww-1; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 12:30:09 -0500 X-MC-Unique: _YFoSxrfMhKRxZhkaNQ5ww-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83BC31800D41; Thu, 3 Dec 2020 17:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (ovpn-118-183.rdu2.redhat.com [10.10.118.183]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07DA727C20; Thu, 3 Dec 2020 17:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 12:29:59 -0500 From: Cleber Rosa To: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=2E_Berrang=E9?= Subject: Re: [PATCH-for-5.2? 1/1] Acceptance tests: bump Fedora to 32 Message-ID: <20201203172959.GA2792185@localhost.localdomain> References: <20201202215747.2719507-1-crosa@redhat.com> <20201202215747.2719507-2-crosa@redhat.com> <20201203165033.GB2787993@localhost.localdomain> <20201203170233.GK2952498@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20201203170233.GK2952498@redhat.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.23 Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=crosa@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline Received-SPF: pass client-ip=216.205.24.124; envelope-from=crosa@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-1.495, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Peter Maydell , Thomas Huth , Eduardo Habkost , Philippe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mathieu-Daud=E9?= , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Wainer dos Santos Moschetta , Max Reitz , Willian Rampazzo , Alex =?iso-8859-1?Q?Benn=E9e?= , Beraldo Leal Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 05:02:33PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrang=E9 wrote: > I think the problem with the Fedora acceptance is that we'll be constantl= y > chasing a moving target. Every URL we pick will go away 6-12 months later= . > IOW, while the acceptance test pass today, in 6 months time they'll be > failing. IOW, switching to F32 doesn't solve the root cause, it just > pushs the problem down the road for 6 months until F32 is EOL and hits > the same URL change problem. > Just FIY, the tests will not FAIL when the images are removed from the official locations. This is what happens Today: JOB ID : e85527a9d75023070f15b833eac0f91f803afc83 JOB LOG : /home/cleber/avocado/job-results/job-2020-12-03T12.21-e8552= 7a/job.log (1/1) tests/acceptance/boot_linux.py:BootLinuxX8664.test_pc_q35_kvm: CA= NCEL: Failed to download/prepare boot image (0.33 s) RESULTS : PASS 0 | ERROR 0 | FAIL 0 | SKIP 0 | WARN 0 | INTERRUPT 0 |= CANCEL 1 JOB HTML : /home/cleber/avocado/job-results/job-2020-12-03T12.21-e8552= 7a/results.html JOB TIME : 0.76 s And *normally*, we'd have 12+ months between updates, that is from Fedora 31 -> 33, 33 -> 35, etc. > One way to avoid this is to *not* actually test a current Fedora. > Instead intentionally point at an EOL Fedora release whose URL has > already moved to the archive site which is long term stable. > So the tradeoff is, a patch every 6 or 12 months, versus using a more modern guest. With other tests, such as virtiofs_submounts.py, already depending on the same decision (to avoid multiple guest images downloaded), I think this tradeoff decision needs more visibility. IMO, the cost of such a simple patch every 6 or 12 months is very low provided we'll benefit from the newer guests. 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