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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: "Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>, "Stefan Weil" <sw@weilnetz.de>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] meson: Warn when TCI is selected but TCG backend is available
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 10:02:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210127100221.GD3653144@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875z3jy3tt.fsf@linaro.org>

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 05:24:10PM +0000, Alex Bennée wrote:
> 
> Stefan Weil <sw@weilnetz.de> writes:
> 
> > Am 25.01.21 um 23:35 schrieb Richard Henderson:
> >> On 1/25/21 11:02 AM, Stefan Weil wrote:
> >>> Am 25.01.21 um 20:02 schrieb Richard Henderson:
> >>>> On 1/25/21 8:58 AM, Stefan Weil wrote:
> >>>>> I have no evidence that TCI is less reliable than TCG, so I would not write
> >>>>> that.
> >>>> It can't pass make check-tcg.
> >>> Where does it fail? Maybe an expected timeout problem which can be solved by
> >>> increasing the timeouts for TCI?
> >>>
> >>> I have just run a local test of `make check-tcg` with native TCG and with TCI
> >>> and did not see a difference. But I noticed that in both cases many tests show
> >>> "skipped".
> >> You need to enable docker or podman for your development, so that you get all
> >> of the cross-compilers.
> >>
> >> Then:
> >>
> >>    TEST    fcvt on arm
> >> TODO ../qemu/tcg/tci.c:614: tcg_qemu_tb_exec()
> >> ../qemu/tcg/tci.c:614: tcg fatal error
> >> qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped
> >>
> >>    TEST    float_convs on m68k
> >> TODO ../qemu/tcg/tci.c:614: tcg_qemu_tb_exec()
> >> ../qemu/tcg/tci.c:614: tcg fatal error
> >> qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped
> >>
> >> which is of course one of the TODO assertions.
> >> It's positively criminal those still exist in the code.
> >
> >
> > I installed podman and repeated `make check-tcg`. The log file still 
> > shows 87 lines with "SKIPPED". There is also a gdb core dump, several 
> > warnings, but nothing related to TCI. Both tests cited above seem to 
> > work without a problem.
> 
> I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you have commit:
> 
>   23a77b2d18 (build-system: clean up TCG/TCI configury)
> 
> which temporarily has the effect of disabling TCI. See
> 
>   Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] configure: Fix --enable-tcg-interpreter
>   From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
>   Message-ID: <2b8b6291-b54c-b285-ae38-21f067a8497d@redhat.com>
>   Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:36:42 +0100
> 
> with that fix fixed I see the same failures as Richard:
> 
>   ./qemu-arm ./tests/tcg/arm-linux-user/fcvt > /dev/null
>   TODO ../../tcg/tci.c:614: tcg_qemu_tb_exec()
>   ../../tcg/tci.c:614: tcg fatal error
>   qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped
>   fish: “./qemu-arm ./tests/tcg/arm-linu…” terminated by signal SIGSEGV (Address boundary error)
> 
> which does raise the question before today when was the last time anyone
> attempted to run check-tcg on this?
> 
> > The complete log file is available from 
> > https://qemu.weilnetz.de/test/check-tcg.txt.
> >
> > Daniel, regarding your comment: TCI has 100 % test coverage for the 
> > productive code lines.
> 
> By what tests? The fact you don't hit asserts in your day to day testing
> doesn't mean there are features missing that are easily tripped up or
> that TCI got it right.
> 
> > All code lines which were never tested raise an 
> > assertion, so can easily be identified (and fixed as soon as there is a 
> > test case which triggers such an assertion). The known deficits are 
> > speed, missing TCG opcodes, unimplemented TCG opcodes because of missing 
> > test cases and missing support for some host architectures.
> 
> Passing check-tcg would be a minimum for me.

Passing check-tcg *in gitlab CI* would be the minimum to consider
it on a par with TCG.

The lack of automated GitLab CI for TCI is a reason my proposed wording
described TCI as less reliable than native TCG. We can't claim it has
equivalent reliability unless we have equiv automated testing of TCI.

Regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-27 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-25 14:45 [PATCH v4 0/4] meson: Try to clarify TCG / TCI options for new users Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-01-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] configure: Fix --enable-tcg-interpreter Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-01-25 16:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-25 17:10   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-26 19:46   ` Stefan Weil
2021-01-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] configure: Improve TCI feature description Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-01-25 16:44   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] meson: Explicit TCG backend used Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-01-25 16:45   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] meson: Warn when TCI is selected but TCG backend is available Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-01-25 16:46   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-25 16:47   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-25 17:05     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-01-25 18:58       ` Stefan Weil
2021-01-25 19:02         ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-25 21:02           ` Stefan Weil
2021-01-25 22:35             ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-26 11:40               ` Stefan Weil
2021-01-26 17:24                 ` Alex Bennée
2021-01-26 19:44                   ` Stefan Weil
2021-01-26 20:07                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-26 20:10                       ` Stefan Weil
2021-01-26 22:39                     ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-27  6:53                       ` Stefan Weil
2021-01-27 17:19                         ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-27 19:52                         ` Alex Bennée
2021-01-27 20:49                           ` Stefan Weil
2021-01-27 21:47                             ` Alex Bennée
2021-01-28  2:49                               ` Stefan Weil
2021-01-28  6:51                               ` qemu user mode fails to run programs with large VM / built with address sanitizer (was: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] meson: Warn when TCI is selected but TCG backend is available) Stefan Weil
2021-01-28  8:29                                 ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-27 10:02                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2021-01-27 12:34                     ` [PATCH v4 4/4] meson: Warn when TCI is selected but TCG backend is available Alex Bennée
2021-01-26 10:34           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-29  8:06 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] meson: Try to clarify TCG / TCI options for new users Paolo Bonzini

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