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Berrangé wrote: > > The distinction of contrib/ vs tools/ is supposed to be more a > > reflection on the quality of the program. > > > > contrib/ should be considered demo-ware, no back compat guaranteed, > > may or may not work, no testing guaranteed, no man pages. > > On this definition, why do we have any of it in our source tree? > Interesting but unmaintained side things can live quite happily > elsewhere (other peoples' git forks, blog posts, whatever). Yes, broadly speaking I would actually agree with this. I think much of this could easily live outside of qemu.git, beit a separate repo uner QEMU project namespace, or a complete 3rd party. Especially the vhost-user stuff has no dependency on QEMU in general and could be used with other KVM userspaces. > If we care about a bit of code enough to keep it in our source > tree we ought to care about it enough to properly document > and test it and give it a suitable place to live. 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