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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Den Lunev <den@openvz.org>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Andrey Gruzdev <andrey.gruzdev@virtuozzo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 0/5] UFFD write-tracking migration/snapshots
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:05:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210211210549.GE157159@xz-x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <764B3931-54B7-426F-9872-5B71EED60947@redhat.com>

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 09:44:07PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Let‘s take a look at init-on-free.
> 
> The guest zeroes a page and puts it onto a buddy freelist. Free page reporting code takes it off that list and reports it to the hypervisor. The hypervisor discards the physical page and tells the guest he‘s done processing the page. The guest re-places the page onto the free page list.
> 
> From that point on, the page can be re-allocated inside the guest and is assumed to be zero. On access, a fresh (zeroed) page is populated by the hypervisor. The guest won‘t re-zero the page, as it has the guarantee (from free page reporting) that the page remained zero.
> 
> Write-protecting the unpopulated page won‘t work as discussed.

IMHO no matter if it's init_on_alloc or init_on_free or both, as long as it's
inited in some way then it means the guest OS wrote to it.  Then wr-protect
will work..

MADV_DONTNEED during live snapshot seems to be a separate topic as you
mentioned in the other thread.  For that, I agree we'd better simply let
virtio_balloon_inhibited() to return true for live snapshot too just like
postcopy.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-11 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-21 15:24 [PATCH v13 0/5] UFFD write-tracking migration/snapshots andrey.gruzdev--- via
2021-01-21 15:24 ` [PATCH v13 1/5] migration: introduce 'background-snapshot' migration capability andrey.gruzdev--- via
2021-01-21 15:24 ` [PATCH v13 2/5] migration: introduce UFFD-WP low-level interface helpers andrey.gruzdev--- via
2021-01-21 15:24 ` [PATCH v13 3/5] migration: support UFFD write fault processing in ram_save_iterate() andrey.gruzdev--- via
2021-01-21 15:24 ` [PATCH v13 4/5] migration: implementation of background snapshot thread andrey.gruzdev--- via
2021-01-28 18:29   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-29  8:17     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-01-21 15:24 ` [PATCH v13 5/5] migration: introduce 'userfaultfd-wrlat.py' script andrey.gruzdev--- via
2021-02-09 12:37 ` [PATCH v13 0/5] UFFD write-tracking migration/snapshots David Hildenbrand
2021-02-09 18:38   ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-02-09 19:06     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-09 20:09       ` Peter Xu
2021-02-09 20:31         ` Peter Xu
2021-02-11  9:21           ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-02-11 17:18             ` Peter Xu
2021-02-11 18:15               ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-02-11 16:19       ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-02-11 17:32         ` Peter Xu
2021-02-11 18:28           ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-02-11 19:01             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-11 20:31               ` Peter Xu
2021-02-11 20:44                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-11 21:05                   ` Peter Xu [this message]
2021-02-11 21:09                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-12  3:06                       ` Peter Xu
2021-02-12  8:52                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-12 16:11                           ` Peter Xu
2021-02-13  9:34                             ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-02-13 10:30                               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-16 23:35                               ` Peter Xu
2021-02-17 10:31                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19  6:57                                 ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-02-19  7:45                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19 20:50                                   ` Peter Xu
2021-02-19 21:10                                     ` Peter Xu
2021-02-19 21:14                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19 21:20                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19 22:47                                           ` Peter Xu
2021-02-20  7:59                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-22 17:29                                               ` Peter Xu
2021-02-22 17:33                                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-22 17:54                                                   ` Peter Xu
2021-02-22 18:11                                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-24 16:56                                                       ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-02-24 17:01                                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-24 17:52                                                           ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-02-24 16:43                                     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-02-24 16:54                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-24 17:00                                         ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-02-11 19:21     ` David Hildenbrand

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