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From: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>, Jason Dillaman <dillaman@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: QEMU RBD is slow with QCOW2 images
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 15:08:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210304140829.4tfdrd2mhqa4o76h@steredhat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210304120502.GA9607@merkur.fritz.box>

On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 01:05:02PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>Am 03.03.2021 um 18:40 hat Stefano Garzarella geschrieben:
>> Hi Jason,
>> as reported in this BZ [1], when qemu-img creates a QCOW2 image on RBD
>> writing data is very slow compared to a raw file.
>>
>> Comparing raw vs QCOW2 image creation with RBD I found that we use a
>> different object size, for the raw file I see '4 MiB objects', for 
>> QCOW2 I
>> see '64 KiB objects' as reported on comment 14 [2].
>> This should be the main issue of slowness, indeed forcing in the code 4 MiB
>> object size also for QCOW2 increased the speed a lot.
>>
>> Looking better I discovered that for raw files, we call rbd_create() with
>> obj_order = 0 (if 'cluster_size' options is not defined), so the default
>> object size is used.
>> Instead for QCOW2, we use obj_order = 16, since the default 'cluster_size'
>> defined for QCOW2, is 64 KiB.
>
>Hm, the QemuOpts-based image creation is messy, but why does the rbd
>driver even see the cluster_size option?
>
>The first thing qcow2_co_create_opts() does is splitting the passed
>QemuOpts into options it will process on the qcow2 layer and options
>that are passed to the protocol layer. So if you pass a cluster_size
>option, qcow2 should take it for itself and not pass it to rbd.
>
>If it is passed to rbd, I think that's a bug in the qcow2 driver.

IIUC qcow2 properyl remove it, but when rbd uses 
qemu_opt_get_size_del(opts, BLOCK_OPT_CLUSTER_SIZE, 0) the default value 
of qcow2 format is returned.

Going in depth in qemu_opt_get_size_helper(), I found that 
qemu_opt_find() properly returns a NULL pointer, but then we call 
find_default_by_name() that returns the default value of qcow2 format 
(64k).

>
>> Using '-o cluster_size=2M' with qemu-img changed only the qcow2 cluster
>> size, since in qcow2_co_create_opts() we remove the 'cluster_size' from
>> QemuOpts calling qemu_opts_to_qdict_filtered().
>> For some reason that I have yet to understand, after this deletion, however
>> remains in QemuOpts the default value of 'cluster_size' for qcow2 (64 KiB),
>> that it's used in qemu_rbd_co_create_opts()
>
>So it seems you came to a similar conclusion. We need to find out where
>the 64k come from and just fix that so that rbd uses its default.

Yes, I tried debugging above, but I'm not sure how to fix it.

Maybe a new parameter in qemu_opt_get_size_helper() to prevent it from 
looking for the default value.
Or we should prevent the default value from being added to the 
opts->list->desc, but that part is still not very clear to me.

>
>> At this point my doubts are:
>> Does it make sense to use the same cluster_size as qcow2 as object_size in
>> RBD?
>> If we want to keep the 2 options separated, how can it be done? Should we
>> rename the option in block/rbd.c?
>
>My lazy answer is that you could just use QMP blockdev-create, where you
>create layer by layer separately.
>
>What could possibly be done for the QemuOpts is using the dotted syntax
>like for opening, so you could specify file.cluster_size=... for the
>protocol layer (or data_file.cluster_size=... for the external data
>file etc.)
>

This would be cool :-)

Thanks,
Stefano



  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-04 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-03 17:40 QEMU RBD is slow with QCOW2 images Stefano Garzarella
2021-03-03 18:47 ` Jason Dillaman
2021-03-03 21:26   ` Peter Lieven
2021-03-04  8:58     ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-03-04  8:55   ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-03-04 10:25     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-03-04 11:12       ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-03-04 11:15         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-03-04 12:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-04 14:08   ` Stefano Garzarella [this message]
2021-03-04 14:59     ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-04 17:32       ` Stefano Garzarella
2021-03-05  9:16         ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-05  9:44           ` Stefano Garzarella

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