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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Andrey Gruzdev <andrey.gruzdev@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Den Lunev <den@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] migration: Fixes to the 'background-snapshot' code
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 11:41:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210324154158.GC219069@xz-x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65f1ebcd-fac9-0923-33e7-889946066b40@virtuozzo.com>

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 11:09:27AM +0300, Andrey Gruzdev wrote:
> > I'm also looking into introducing UFFD_FEATURE_WP_UNALLOCATED so as to
> > wr-protect page holes too for a uffd-wp region when the feature bit is set.
> > With that feature we should be able to avoid pre-fault as what we do in the
> > last patch of this series.  However even if that can work out, we'll still need
> > this for old kernel anyways.
> 
> I'm curious this new feature is based on adding wr-protection at the level of VMAs,
> so we won't miss write faults for missing pages?

I think we can do it with multiple ways.

The most efficient one would be wr-protect the range during uffd-wp
registration, so as you said it'll be per-vma attribute.  However that'll
change the general semantics of uffd-wp as normally we need registration and
explicit wr-protect.  Then it'll still be pte-based for faulted in pages (the
ones we wr-protected during registration will still be), however for the rest
it'll become vma-based.  It's indeed a bit confusing.

The other way is we can fault in zero page during UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT.  However
that's less efficient, since it's close to pre-fault on read but it's just
slightly more cleaner than doing it in userspace.  When I rethink about this it
may not worth it to do in kernel if userspace can achieve things similar.

So let's stick with current solution; that idea may need more thoughts..

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-24 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-19 14:52 [PATCH v1 0/3] migration: Fixes to the 'background-snapshot' code Andrey Gruzdev
2021-03-19 14:52 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] migration: Fix missing qemu_fflush() on buffer file in bg_migration_thread Andrey Gruzdev
2021-03-22 20:17   ` Peter Xu
2021-03-23  7:51     ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-03-23 14:54       ` Peter Xu
2021-03-23 17:21         ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-03-23 18:35           ` Peter Xu
2021-03-24  7:48             ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-03-24 17:35             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-03-24 18:50               ` Peter Xu
2021-03-19 14:52 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] migration: Inhibit virtio-balloon for the duration of background snapshot Andrey Gruzdev
2021-03-19 14:52 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] migration: Pre-fault memory before starting background snasphot Andrey Gruzdev
2021-03-23 22:21 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] migration: Fixes to the 'background-snapshot' code Peter Xu
2021-03-24  8:09   ` Andrey Gruzdev
2021-03-24 15:41     ` Peter Xu [this message]
2021-03-25  9:51       ` Andrey Gruzdev

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