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From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, "Michal Privoznik" <mprivozn@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, acatan@amazon.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] vmx: Fix <genid/> mapping
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:59:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211004145909.GZ3361@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ecfdc6cc-c411-851f-afb6-ac301d722d99@redhat.com>

On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 04:50:51PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 10/04/21 11:59, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > It turns out that changing the qemu implementation is painful,
> > particularly if we wish to maintain backwards compatibility of the
> > command line and live migration.
> >
> > Instead I opted to document comprehensively what all the
> > different hypervisors do:
> >
> >   https://github.com/libguestfs/virt-v2v/blob/master/docs/vm-generation-id-across-hypervisors.txt
> 
> > Unfortunately QEMU made a significant mistake when implementing this
> > feature.  Because the string is 128 bits wrong, they decided it must
>                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Haha, that's a great typo :)
> 
> > be a UUID (as you can see above there is no evidence that Microsoft
> > who wrote the original spec thought it was).  Following from this
> > incorrect assumption, they stated that the "UUID" must be supplied to
> > qemu in big endian format and must be byteswapped when writing it to
> > guest memory.  Their documentation says that they only do this for
> > little endian guests, but this is not true of their implementation
> > which byte swaps it for all guests.
> 
> I don't think this is what section "Endian-ness Considerations" in
> "docs/specs/vmgenid.txt" says. That text says that the *device* uses
> little-endian format. That's independent of the endianness of *CPU* of
> the particular guest architecture.
> 
> So the byte-swapping in the QEMU code occurs unconditionally because
> QEMU's UUID type is inherently big endian, and the device model in
> question is fixed little endian. The guest CPU's endianness is
> irrelevant as far as the device is concerned.
> 
> If a BE guest CPU intends to read the generation ID and to interpret it
> as a set of integers, then the guest CPU is supposed to byte-swap the
> appropriate fields itself.
> 
> > References
> 
> I suggest adding two links in this section, namely to:
> - docs/specs/vmgenid.txt
> - hw/acpi/vmgenid.c

Fair enough - I've made the changes you suggest (same URL as above).

Thanks,

Rich.

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      reply	other threads:[~2021-10-04 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1632900578.git.mprivozn@redhat.com>
2021-09-29  9:20 ` [PATCH 0/1] vmx: Fix <genid/> mapping Richard W.M. Jones
2021-09-29  9:33   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-29  9:46     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2021-09-29 10:07       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-29 10:24         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2021-09-29 10:24       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2021-09-29  9:57     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2021-09-29 10:10       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-29 10:34         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2021-09-30  7:33           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2021-09-30  8:35             ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-09-30  8:47             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-30  9:16               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2021-10-04  9:59                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2021-10-04 14:50                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2021-10-04 14:59                     ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]

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