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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Cc: "Heiko Schocher" <hs@denx.de>,
	"François Ozog" <francois.ozog@linaro.org>,
	"Albert Aribaud" <albert.u.boot@aribaud.net>,
	"Neil Armstrong" <narmstrong@baylibre.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Andre Przywara" <andre.przywara@arm.com>,
	"Tim Harvey" <tharvey@gateworks.com>,
	"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	"Christian Hewitt" <christianshewitt@gmail.com>,
	"Kever Yang" <kever.yang@rock-chips.com>,
	"Rick Chen" <rick@andestech.com>,
	"U-Boot Mailing List" <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	"Jagan Teki" <jagan@amarulasolutions.com>,
	"Sean Anderson" <seanga2@gmail.com>,
	"Fabio Estevam" <festevam@gmail.com>,
	"Tuomas Tynkkynen" <tuomas.tynkkynen@iki.fi>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Peter Robinson" <pbrobinson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/16] arm: qemu: Add a devicetree file for qemu_arm64
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:39:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211027183910.GH8284@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPnjgZ1sKULC6wKuEWsdjzFsmDK3ECVUTiE7kjp18psgACREVQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:34:26PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 08:56, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 03:44:08PM +0100, Alex Bennée wrote:
> > >
> > > François Ozog <francois.ozog@linaro.org> writes:
> > >
> > > > Hi Simon
> > > >
> > > > The only place I could agree with this file presence is in the documentation directory, not in dts. It creates a mental picture  for the reader
> > > > an entirely bad mind scheme around Qemu and DT.
> > > >
> > > > And even in a documentation directory I would place a bug warning: don’t use this with any kernel , Qemu generates a DT dynamically
> > > > based on cpu, memory and devices specified at the command line.
> > >
> > > Certainly for the arm, aarch64 and riscv "virt" machines you should
> > > always use the QEMU generated DTB. I'm not entirely clear what a
> > > qemu_arm and qemu_arm64 def targets are meant to be in this context.
> >
> > Agreed.  We cannot include random device trees in U-Boot for devices
> > that generate their own at run time or otherwise have the source of
> > truth elsewhere.
> 
> Until we have a way of bringing in the u-boot.dtsi that people in QEMU
> can agree on, I don't see an alternative. I will send a series for the
> bloblist handoff next week and I think you will all see what I mean.

I think the alternative is that QEMU in U-Boot just can't be used for
certain features.  Which is annoying in that it would be good to use it
to test certain feature, yes.  It's generating a good and valid enough
dtb for Linux, so it should be good enough for us in general.

-- 
Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-27 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-13  1:01 [PATCH 00/16] fdt: Make OF_BOARD a boolean option Simon Glass
2021-10-13  1:01 ` [PATCH 01/16] arm: qemu: Mention -nographic in the docs Simon Glass
2021-10-13  1:01 ` [PATCH 02/16] arm: qemu: Explain how to extract the generate devicetree Simon Glass
2021-10-13  1:19   ` François Ozog
2021-10-13 16:58     ` Simon Glass
2021-10-13 17:36       ` Tom Rini
2021-10-13  1:01 ` [PATCH 03/16] riscv: " Simon Glass
2021-10-13  1:01 ` [PATCH 04/16] arm: qemu: Add a devicetree file for qemu_arm Simon Glass
2021-10-13  1:01 ` [PATCH 05/16] arm: qemu: Add a devicetree file for qemu_arm64 Simon Glass
2021-10-13  1:15   ` François Ozog
2021-10-27 14:44     ` Alex Bennée
2021-10-27 14:56       ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 18:34         ` Simon Glass
2021-10-27 18:39           ` Tom Rini [this message]
2021-10-27 19:45             ` Alex Bennée
2021-10-13  1:01 ` [PATCH 06/16] riscv: qemu: Add devicetree files for qemu_riscv32/64 Simon Glass
2021-10-13  4:21   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-13  1:29 ` [PATCH 00/16] fdt: Make OF_BOARD a boolean option Bin Meng
2021-10-13  1:34   ` Tom Rini
2021-10-13  8:02     ` François Ozog
2021-10-13 14:47     ` Simon Glass
2021-10-13 17:34       ` François Ozog
2021-10-13 18:06         ` Simon Glass
2021-10-14 14:56           ` Tom Rini
2021-10-14 15:17             ` Simon Glass
2021-10-14 15:28               ` Tom Rini
2021-10-14 17:58                 ` François Ozog
2021-10-15 18:03                 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-26  6:46                   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-10-27 12:59                     ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 13:30                       ` François Ozog
2021-10-27 13:38                         ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 13:47                           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-10-27 14:26                             ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 13:48                           ` François Ozog
2021-10-27 14:30                             ` Tom Rini
2021-10-28  2:50                     ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28  8:21                       ` François Ozog
2021-10-28 14:30                         ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28 14:50                           ` François Ozog
2021-10-28 15:44                             ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28 16:25                               ` François Ozog
2021-11-02 14:59                                 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-01 11:04                       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-11-02 10:06                         ` Michael Walle
2021-11-02 12:34                           ` François Ozog
2021-11-02 14:59                         ` Simon Glass
2021-10-27 12:48                   ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 13:15                     ` François Ozog
2021-10-27 13:23                       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-27 14:55                         ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 15:02                           ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-27 18:04                             ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 14:54                       ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 15:10                       ` Mark Kettenis
2021-10-27 15:24                         ` Simon Glass
2021-10-27 18:06                           ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 18:11                             ` François Ozog
2021-10-27 21:52                           ` Mark Kettenis
2021-10-27 16:02                         ` François Ozog
2021-10-27 19:06                           ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 22:00                             ` François Ozog
2021-10-28 14:41                               ` Tom Rini
2021-10-14 16:24               ` Andre Przywara
2021-10-14 17:48                 ` François Ozog
2021-10-14 18:12           ` François Ozog
2021-10-14 21:00             ` Simon Glass
2021-10-13 12:39   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-13 13:06     ` François Ozog
2021-10-13  4:26 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-13 13:06   ` François Ozog
2021-10-13  9:50 ` Andre Przywara
2021-10-13 13:05   ` François Ozog

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