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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Albert Aribaud" <albert.u.boot@aribaud.net>,
	"François Ozog" <francois.ozog@linaro.org>,
	"U-Boot Mailing List" <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	"Heinrich Schuchardt" <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>,
	"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Sean Anderson" <seanga2@gmail.com>,
	"Tuomas Tynkkynen" <tuomas.tynkkynen@iki.fi>,
	"Mark Kettenis" <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/26] arm: qemu: Add a devicetree file for qemu_arm64
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 12:57:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211102165718.GR24579@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPnjgZ0O56yokanMjybQKa1kBmtFHHbDfQ0sPPawrbLWtw7aDQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Nov 02, 2021 at 08:59:45AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi François,
> 
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 11:33, François Ozog <francois.ozog@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Simon
> >
> > Le lun. 1 nov. 2021 à 17:58, Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> a écrit :
> >>
> >> Hi Peter,
> >>
> >> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 04:48, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 01:33, Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Add this file, generated from qemu, so there is a reference devicetree
> >> > > in the U-Boot tree.
> >> > >
> >> > > Signed-off-by: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> >> >
> >> > Note that the dtb you get from QEMU is only guaranteed to work if:
> >> >  1) you run it on the exact same QEMU version you generated it with
> >> >  2) you pass QEMU the exact same command line arguments you used
> >> >     when you generated it
> >>
> >> Yes, I certainly understand that. In general this is not safe, but in
> >> practice it works well enough for development and CI.
> >
> > You recognize that you hijack a product directory with development hack facility. There is a test directory to keep things clear. There can be a dev-dts or something similar for Dev time tools.
> > I have only seen push back on those fake dts files in the dts directory: I guess that unless someone strongly favors a continuation of the discussion, you may consider re-shaping the proposal to address concerns.
> 
> As stated previously, I would like to have at least a sample DT
> in-tree for all boards. I cannot see another way to get the Kconfig

What's the point of having a sample when it's not going to always be
correct or may be actively wrong and we can tell interested developers /
users how to get the correct DTB/DTS to examine?

> options in line. If we are able to put these files somewhere else in
> the future and get them out of U-Boot, with perhaps just an overlay
> for development purposes, I'd be keen to see it. But for now, this is
> where we are, I believe.
> 
> In this particular case, this is not just a dev hack. It is also for
> CI tests which need to use a devicetree. See for example here:
> 
> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/patch/20211101011734.1614781-15-sjg@chromium.org/
> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/patch/20211101011734.1614781-24-sjg@chromium.org/

This example would probably be better done on vexpress_ca9x4 where we do
test in CI via QEMU but do not need to modify a device tree that is
passed on to us, we already control the source of truth DTB in this
case.

And also yes, I'm behind on reviewing things I need to review.

-- 
Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-02 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-26  0:23 [PATCH v5 00/26] fdt: Make OF_BOARD a boolean option Simon Glass
2021-10-26  0:23 ` [PATCH v5 03/26] arm: qemu: Mention -nographic in the docs Simon Glass
2021-10-26  0:23 ` [PATCH v5 04/26] arm: riscv: qemu: Explain how to extract the generated dt Simon Glass
2021-10-26  0:23 ` [PATCH v5 05/26] arm: qemu: Add a devicetree file for qemu_arm Simon Glass
2021-10-26  0:23 ` [PATCH v5 06/26] arm: qemu: Add a devicetree file for qemu_arm64 Simon Glass
2021-11-01 10:48   ` Peter Maydell
2021-11-01 16:58     ` Simon Glass
2021-11-01 17:33       ` François Ozog
2021-11-01 18:07         ` Tom Rini
2021-11-02 15:00           ` Simon Glass
2021-11-02 17:28             ` Tom Rini
2021-11-03  1:29               ` Simon Glass
2021-11-03  5:29                 ` François Ozog
2021-11-03 14:41                   ` Tom Rini
2021-11-04 11:09                     ` Peter Maydell
2021-11-04 11:22                       ` François Ozog
2021-11-04 11:41                         ` Peter Maydell
2021-11-04 11:48                           ` François Ozog
2021-11-03 14:44                   ` François Ozog
2021-11-03 14:39                 ` Tom Rini
2021-11-02 14:59         ` Simon Glass
2021-11-02 16:57           ` Tom Rini [this message]
2021-11-03  1:32             ` Simon Glass
2021-11-03 14:39               ` Tom Rini
2021-10-26  0:23 ` [PATCH v5 07/26] riscv: qemu: Add devicetree files for qemu_riscv32/64 Simon Glass
2021-10-26  6:07 ` [PATCH v5 00/26] fdt: Make OF_BOARD a boolean option François Ozog
2021-10-27 14:08   ` Simon Glass
2021-10-27 15:14     ` François Ozog
2021-10-27 18:23       ` Simon Glass
2021-10-27 19:25         ` Tom Rini
2021-11-03 16:45           ` Simon Glass
2021-11-03 17:21             ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 20:07         ` François Ozog
2021-11-03  1:20           ` Simon Glass
2021-11-03  4:45             ` François Ozog
2021-10-27 22:30         ` Mark Kettenis
2021-11-03  1:20           ` Simon Glass
2021-11-03  8:22             ` Mark Kettenis
2021-11-03 16:02               ` Tom Rini
2021-11-03 16:45                 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-03 17:36                   ` Mark Kettenis
2021-11-03 15:56             ` Tom Rini
2021-11-03 16:45               ` Simon Glass
2021-10-27 15:36     ` Tuomas Tynkkynen
2021-10-27 19:13       ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 18:16     ` Tom Rini
2021-10-27 18:24     ` Tom Rini
2021-11-03 17:13 ` François Ozog

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