From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: "Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
"Sebastien Boeuf" <sebastien.boeuf@intel.com>,
"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
"Ani Sinha" <ani@anisinha.ca>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Hui Zhu" <teawater@gmail.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/12] virtio-mem: Expose device memory via multiple memslots
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 05:21:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211107051832-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f6071d5f-d100-a128-9f66-a801436aa78a@redhat.com>
On Sun, Nov 07, 2021 at 10:21:33AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Let's not focus on b), a) is the primary goal of this series:
>
> "
> a) Reduce the metadata overhead, including bitmap sizes inside KVM but
> also inside QEMU KVM code where possible.
> "
>
> Because:
>
> "
> For example, when starting a VM with a 1 TiB virtio-mem device that only
> exposes little device memory (e.g., 1 GiB) towards the VM initialliy,
> in order to hotplug more memory later, we waste a lot of memory on
> metadata for KVM memory slots (> 2 GiB!) and accompanied bitmaps.
> "
>
> Partially tackling b) is just a nice side effect of this series. In the
> long term, we'll want userfaultfd-based protection, and I'll do a
> performance evaluation then, how userfaultf vs. !userfaultfd compares
> (boot time, run time, THP consumption).
>
> I'll adjust the cover letter for the next version to make this clearer.
So given this is short-term, and long term we'll use uffd possibly with
some extension (a syscall to populate 1G in one go?) isn't there some
way to hide this from management? It's a one way street: once we get
management involved in playing with memory slots we no longer can go
back and control them ourselves. Not to mention it's a lot of
complexity to push out to management.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-07 10:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-27 12:45 [PATCH v1 00/12] virtio-mem: Expose device memory via multiple memslots David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 01/12] kvm: Return number of free memslots David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 02/12] vhost: " David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 13:36 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-27 13:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 14:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 14:11 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-27 15:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-27 15:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 16:11 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-27 16:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 03/12] memory: Allow for marking memory region aliases unmergeable David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 04/12] vhost: Don't merge unmergeable memory sections David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 05/12] memory-device: Move memory_device_check_addable() directly into memory_device_pre_plug() David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 06/12] memory-device: Generalize memory_device_used_region_size() David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 07/12] memory-device: Support memory devices that dynamically consume multiple memslots David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 08/12] vhost: Respect reserved memslots for memory devices when realizing a vhost device David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 09/12] memory: Drop mapping check from memory_region_get_ram_discard_manager() David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 10/12] virtio-mem: Fix typo in virito_mem_intersect_memory_section() function name David Hildenbrand
2022-12-28 14:05 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2022-12-28 14:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-12-28 14:07 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 11/12] virtio-mem: Set the RamDiscardManager for the RAM memory region earlier David Hildenbrand
2021-10-27 12:45 ` [PATCH v1 12/12] virtio-mem: Expose device memory via multiple memslots David Hildenbrand
2021-11-01 22:15 ` [PATCH v1 00/12] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-02 8:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-02 11:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-02 11:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-02 17:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-02 17:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-07 8:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-07 9:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-11-07 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2021-11-07 10:53 ` David Hildenbrand
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