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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Yechuan <yechuan@huawei.com>,
	"Gonglei \(Arei\)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	Huangzhichao <huangzhichao@huawei.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	pbonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Longpeng \(Mike,
	Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.\)"
	<longpeng2@huawei.com>, Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 02/10] vhost: add 3 commands for vhost-vdpa
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 07:26:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220105072321-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEukEBFYrmJjj-jXR_UdamFbjrFkj7PbdfQJOGMzekAvSg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 05:09:07PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 4:37 PM Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure
> Service Product Dept.) <longpeng2@huawei.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jason Wang [mailto:jasowang@redhat.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 3:54 PM
> > > To: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > Cc: Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
> > > <longpeng2@huawei.com>; Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>; Stefano
> > > Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>; Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>; pbonzini
> > > <pbonzini@redhat.com>; Gonglei (Arei) <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>; Yechuan
> > > <yechuan@huawei.com>; Huangzhichao <huangzhichao@huawei.com>; qemu-devel
> > > <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [RFC 02/10] vhost: add 3 commands for vhost-vdpa
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 3:02 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 12:35:53PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 8:59 AM Longpeng(Mike) <longpeng2@huawei.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Longpeng <longpeng2@huawei.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To support generic vdpa deivce, we need add the following ioctls:
> > > > > > - GET_VECTORS_NUM: the count of vectors that supported
> > > > >
> > > > > Does this mean MSI vectors? If yes, it looks like a layer violation:
> > > > > vhost is transport independent.
> > > >
> > > > Well *guest* needs to know how many vectors device supports.
> > > > I don't think there's a way around that. Do you?
> > >
> > > We have VHOST_SET_VRING/CONFIG_CALL which is per vq. I think we can
> > > simply assume #vqs + 1?
> > >
> > > > Otherwise guests will at best be suboptimal.
> > > >
> > > > >  And it reveals device implementation
> > > > > details which block (cross vendor) migration.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Not necessarily, userspace can hide this from guest if it
> > > > wants to, just validate.
> > >
> > > If we can hide it at vhost/uAPI level, it would be even better?
> > >
> >
> > Not only MSI vectors, but also queue-size, #vqs, etc.
> 
> MSI is PCI specific, we have non PCI vDPA parent e.g VDUSE/simulator/mlx5
> 
> And it's something that is not guaranteed to be not changed. E.g some
> drivers may choose to allocate MSI during set_status() which can fail
> for various reasons.
> 
> >
> > Maybe the vhost level could expose the hardware's real capabilities
> > and let the userspace (QEMU) do the hiding? The userspace know how
> > to process them.
> 
> #MSI vectors is much more easier to be mediated than queue-size and #vqs.
> 
> For interrupts, we've already had VHOST_SET_X_KICK, we can keep
> allocating eventfd based on #MSI vectors to make it work with any
> number of MSI vectors that the virtual device had.

Right but if hardware does not support so many then what?
Just fail? Having a query API would make things somewhat cleaner imho.

> For queue-size, it's Ok to have a new uAPI but it's not a must, Qemu
> can simply fail if SET_VRING_NUM fail.
>
> For #vqs, it's OK to have a new uAPI since the emulated virtio-pci
> device requires knowledge the #vqs in the config space. (still not a
> must, we can enumerate #vqs per device type)
> 
> For the config size, it's OK but not a must, technically we can simply
> relay what guest write to vhost-vdpa. It's just because current Qemu
> require to have it during virtio device initialization.
> 
> Thanks


I agree but these ok things make for a cleaner API I think.

> >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > - GET_CONFIG_SIZE: the size of the virtio config space
> > > > > > - GET_VQS_NUM: the count of virtqueues that exported
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Longpeng <longpeng2@huawei.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  linux-headers/linux/vhost.h | 10 ++++++++++
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/linux-headers/linux/vhost.h b/linux-headers/linux/vhost.h
> > > > > > index c998860d7b..c5edd75d15 100644
> > > > > > --- a/linux-headers/linux/vhost.h
> > > > > > +++ b/linux-headers/linux/vhost.h
> > > > > > @@ -150,4 +150,14 @@
> > > > > >  /* Get the valid iova range */
> > > > > >  #define VHOST_VDPA_GET_IOVA_RANGE      _IOR(VHOST_VIRTIO, 0x78, \
> > > > > >                                              struct vhost_vdpa_iova_range)
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +/* Get the number of vectors */
> > > > > > +#define VHOST_VDPA_GET_VECTORS_NUM     _IOR(VHOST_VIRTIO, 0x79, int)
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +/* Get the virtio config size */
> > > > > > +#define VHOST_VDPA_GET_CONFIG_SIZE     _IOR(VHOST_VIRTIO, 0x80, int)
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +/* Get the number of virtqueues */
> > > > > > +#define VHOST_VDPA_GET_VQS_NUM         _IOR(VHOST_VIRTIO, 0x81, int)
> > > > > > +
> > > > > >  #endif
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > 2.23.0
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-05 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-05  0:58 [RFC 00/10] add generic vDPA device support Longpeng(Mike) via
2022-01-05  0:58 ` [RFC 01/10] virtio: get class_id and pci device id by the virtio id Longpeng(Mike) via
2022-01-05  4:37   ` Jason Wang
2022-01-05  5:47     ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-05  6:15       ` Jason Wang
2022-01-10  3:03         ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-05 10:46   ` Cornelia Huck
2022-01-06  1:50     ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-10  5:43   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-10  6:27     ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-10  7:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-05  0:58 ` [RFC 02/10] vhost: add 3 commands for vhost-vdpa Longpeng(Mike) via
2022-01-05  4:35   ` Jason Wang
2022-01-05  6:40     ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-05  6:43       ` Jason Wang
2022-01-05  7:02     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-05  7:54       ` Jason Wang
2022-01-05  8:37         ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-05  9:09           ` Jason Wang
2022-01-05 12:26             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-01-06  2:34               ` Jason Wang
2022-01-06  8:00                 ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-07  2:41                   ` Jason Wang
2022-01-06 14:09                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-07  2:53                   ` Jason Wang
2022-01-05  9:12         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-05  9:21           ` Jason Wang
2022-01-05  0:58 ` [RFC 03/10] vdpa: add the infrastructure of vdpa-dev Longpeng(Mike) via
2022-01-05  9:48   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-06  1:22     ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-06 11:25       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-07  2:22         ` Jason Wang
2022-01-05  0:58 ` [RFC 04/10] vdpa-dev: implement the instance_init/class_init interface Longpeng(Mike) via
2022-01-05 10:00   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-06  2:39     ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-05 11:28   ` Stefano Garzarella
2022-01-06  2:40     ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-05  0:58 ` [RFC 05/10] vdpa-dev: implement the realize interface Longpeng(Mike) via
2022-01-05 10:17   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-06  3:02     ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-06 11:34       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-17 12:34         ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-19 17:15           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-05  0:58 ` [RFC 06/10] vdpa-dev: implement the unrealize interface Longpeng(Mike) via
2022-01-05 11:16   ` Stefano Garzarella
2022-01-06  3:23     ` longpeng2--- via
2022-01-10  9:38       ` Stefano Garzarella
2022-01-05  0:58 ` [RFC 07/10] vdpa-dev: implement the get_config/set_config interface Longpeng(Mike) via
2022-01-05  0:58 ` [RFC 08/10] vdpa-dev: implement the get_features interface Longpeng(Mike) via
2022-01-05  0:58 ` [RFC 09/10] vdpa-dev: implement the set_status interface Longpeng(Mike) via
2022-01-05  0:59 ` [RFC 10/10] vdpa-dev: mark the device as unmigratable Longpeng(Mike) via
2022-01-05 10:21 ` [RFC 00/10] add generic vDPA device support Stefan Hajnoczi

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