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[213.175.37.12]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x9-20020a5d54c9000000b00241cfa9333fsm11805637wrv.5.2022.12.13.06.35.22 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 13 Dec 2022 06:35:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 15:35:21 +0100 From: Igor Mammedov To: Philippe =?UTF-8?B?TWF0aGlldS1EYXVkw6k=?= Cc: "Daniel P. =?UTF-8?B?QmVycmFuZ8Op?=" , John Snow , Mark Burton , "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" , Paolo Bonzini , Markus Armbruster , Eduardo Habkost , "Edgar E. Iglesias" , Thomas Huth , Juan Quintela , Bernhard Beschow , Brian Cain , Warner Losh , Luc Michel , Paul Walmsley , Alessandro Di Federico , =?UTF-8?B?Q8OpZHJpYw==?= Le Goater , LIU Zhiwei , Jim Shu , Richard Henderson , Alistair Francis , Alex =?UTF-8?B?QmVubsOpZQ==?= , Anton Johansson , Michal Privoznik , Kevin Wolf , Peter Maydell , "Denis V. Lunev" , Cleber Rosa , Stefan Hajnoczi , Eduardo Habkost , qemu-devel , =?UTF-8?B?TWFyYy1BbmRyw6k=?= Lureau , Dominik Csapak , Christophe de Dinechin , Gerd Hoffmann , Kashyap Chamarthy , Mark Cave-Ayland , Jagannathan Raman , Elena Ufimtseva , John G Johnson , Dongli Zhang , afaerber@suse.de, andrea.arcangeli@redhat.com, bazulay@redhat.com, bbauman@redhat.com, cjia@nvidia.com, cw@f00f.org, digitaleric@google.com, dustin.kirkland@canonical.com, Eric Blake , Eric Auger , felipe@nutanix.com, iggy@theiggy.com, Jan Kiszka , Jason Gunthorpe , jidong.xiao@gmail.com, jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Joao Martins , mburton@qti.qualcom.com, mdean@redhat.com, mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com, z.huo@139.com, zwu.kernel@gmail.com, Laurent Vivier Subject: Re: Single system binary & Dynamic machine model (KVM developers conference call 2022-12-13) Message-ID: <20221213153521.692553be@imammedo.users.ipa.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <1ac96aab-c5c4-b539-956c-d2923e6d8602@linaro.org> References: <936e1ac4-cef8-08b4-c688-e5b1e057208b@linaro.org> <1ac96aab-c5c4-b539-956c-d2923e6d8602@linaro.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.35; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=imammedo@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 15:08:53 +0100 Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 wrote: > On 12/12/22 00:41, Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > In the last years we had few discussions on "simplifying" QEMU (system= =20 > > emulation / virtualization), in particular for the "management layer". > >=20 > > Some of us are interested in having QEMU able to dynamically create > > machine models. Mark Burton's current approach is via a Python script > > which generates QMP commands. This is just another case of "management > > layer". > >=20 > > Various problems have been raised regarding the current limitations of > > QEMU's APIs. We'd like to remember / get a broader idea on these limits > > and look at some ideas / proposals which have been discussed / posted > > on this list. > >=20 > > Feel free to complete your thoughts on this public etherpad: > > https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/qemu-emulation-bof%402022-12-13 > >=20 > > Topic I remember which can be good starters: > >=20 > > - Current limitations of QAPI (& QMP) model (Markus Armbruster) > >=20 > > - Adding a new qemu-runtime-$TARGET / QMP-only binary without today's > > =C2=A0 limitations (Daniel P. Berrang=C3=A9 & Paolo Bonzini) > >=20 > > - Problem with x-exit-preconfig, reworking MachinePhaseInit state > > =C2=A0 machine (Paolo Bonzini) > >=20 > > Markus / Daniel / Paolo expressed their ideas on the list (the > > historical threads are referenced in the etherpad) so reading the > > relevant threads before the call will help to get in the topic. > > These people don't have to be in the call, but if they can attend > > that would be very nice :) > >=20 > > The call will be Tuesday, December 13 at 3pm CET on this Bluejeans link: > > http://bluejeans.com/quintela =20 > We moved the call here: >=20 > https://teams.microsoft.com/_#/pre-join-calling/19:meeting_MjU2NDhkOGYtOG= Y5ZC00MzRjLWJjNjgtYWI2ODQxZGExMWNj@thread.v2 this one, required to login after which it throws out some license error wh= atever.