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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] vhost: Defer filtering memory sections until building the vhost memory structure
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 07:21:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230216072002-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0fe7b18c-507a-2c11-8440-e9e35294b4ba@redhat.com>

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 01:10:54PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 16.02.23 13:04, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:47:51PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > Having multiple devices, some filtering memslots and some not filtering
> > > memslots, messes up the "used_memslot" accounting. If we'd have a device
> > > the filters out less memory sections after a device that filters out more,
> > > we'd be in trouble, because our memslot checks stop working reliably.
> > > For example, hotplugging a device that filters out less memslots might end
> > > up passing the checks based on max vs. used memslots, but can run out of
> > > memslots when getting notified about all memory sections.
> > > 
> > > Further, it will be helpful in memory device context in the near future
> > > to know that a RAM memory region section will consume a memslot, and be
> > > accounted for in the used vs. free memslots, such that we can implement
> > > reservation of memslots for memory devices properly. Whether a device
> > > filters this out and would theoretically still have a free memslot is
> > > then hidden internally, making overall vhost memslot accounting easier.
> > > 
> > > Let's filter the memslots when creating the vhost memory array,
> > > accounting all RAM && !ROM memory regions as "used_memslots" even if
> > > vhost_user isn't interested in anonymous RAM regions, because it needs
> > > an fd.
> > > 
> > > When a device actually filters out regions (which should happen rarely
> > > in practice), we might detect a layout change although only filtered
> > > regions changed. We won't bother about optimizing that for now.
> > 
> > That caused trouble in the past when using VGA because it is playing
> > with mappings in weird ways.
> > I think we have to optimize it, sorry.
> 
> We still filter them out, just later.


The issue is sending lots of unnecessary system calls to update the kernel which
goes through a slow RCU.

> > > Note: we cannot simply filter out the region and count them as
> > > "filtered" to add them to used, because filtered regions could get
> > > merged and result in a smaller effective number of memslots. Further,
> > > we won't touch the hmp/qmp virtio introspection output.
> > > 
> > > Fixes: 988a27754bbb ("vhost: allow backends to filter memory sections")
> > > Cc: Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@intel.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> > 
> > I didn't review this yet but maybe you can answer:
> > will this create more slots for the backend?
> > Because some backends are limited in # of slots and breaking them is
> > not a good idea.
> 
> It restores the handling we had before 988a27754bbb. RAM without an fd
> should be rare for vhost-user setups (where we actually filter) I assume?

Hmm, I guess so.

> -- 
> Thanks,
> 
> David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-16 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-16 11:47 [PATCH v1 0/2] vhost: memslot handling improvements David Hildenbrand
2023-02-16 11:47 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] vhost: Defer filtering memory sections until building the vhost memory structure David Hildenbrand
2023-02-16 12:04   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-16 12:10     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-16 12:13       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-16 12:22         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-16 12:21       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-02-16 12:39         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-07 10:51   ` Igor Mammedov
2023-03-07 12:46     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-08 12:30       ` Igor Mammedov
2023-03-08 15:21         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-16 11:47 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] vhost: Remove vhost_backend_can_merge() callback David Hildenbrand
2023-03-07 10:25   ` Igor Mammedov
2023-03-07 11:16     ` Igor Mammedov
2023-03-07 11:24       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-16 16:04 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] vhost: memslot handling improvements Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-02-17 13:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-17 14:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-17 14:27   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-07 11:14   ` Igor Mammedov
2023-03-08 10:08     ` David Hildenbrand

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