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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Berrange <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, "Maxim Levitsky" <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"Reinoud Zandijk" <reinoud@netbsd.org>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] docs/about: Deprecate 32-bit arm hosts and qemu-system-arm
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 12:10:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230227111050.54083-3-thuth@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230227111050.54083-1-thuth@redhat.com>

qemu-system-aarch64 is a proper superset of qemu-system-arm,
and the latter was mainly still required for 32-bit KVM support.
But this 32-bit KVM arm support has been dropped in the Linux
kernel a couple of years ago already,so we don't really need
qemu-system-arm anymore, thus deprecated it now.

Additionally, it's quite unlikely that anybody is still running
full system emulation on a 32-bit arm host nowadays. All recent
strong arm host machines should support 64-bit now, so we also
deprecate the 32-bit hosts here to finally save some precious
minutes in our CI.

Signed-off-by: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
---
 docs/about/deprecated.rst | 17 +++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 17 insertions(+)

diff --git a/docs/about/deprecated.rst b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
index 98517f5187..a52e45b570 100644
--- a/docs/about/deprecated.rst
+++ b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
@@ -208,6 +208,23 @@ QEMU will soon drop the support for 32-bit x86 host systems and the
 ``qemu-system-i386`` binary. Use ``qemu-system-x86_64`` (which is a proper
 superset of ``qemu-system-i386``) on a 64-bit host machine instead.
 
+System emulation on 32-bit arm hosts and ``qemu-system-arm`` (since 8.0)
+''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
+
+``qemu-system-aarch64`` is a proper superset of ``qemu-system-arm``. The
+latter was mainly a requirement for running KVM on 32-bit arm hosts, but
+this 32-bit KVM support has been removed some years ago already (see:
+https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=541ad0150ca4
+). Thus the QEMU project will drop the ``qemu-system-arm`` binary in a
+future release -- use ``qemu-system-aarch64`` instead.
+
+Since you need a strong host machine for running full system emulation,
+and all recent strong hosts support 64-bit anyway, the QEMU project
+also deprecates the support for running any system emulation on 32-bit
+arm hosts in general. Use 64-bit arm hosts for system emulation instead.
+(Note: "user" mode emulation continuous to be supported on 32-bit arm
+hosts, too)
+
 
 QEMU API (QAPI) events
 ----------------------
-- 
2.31.1



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-27 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-27 11:10 [PATCH 0/2] Deprecate support for 32-bit x86 and arm hosts Thomas Huth
2023-02-27 11:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] docs/about: Deprecate 32-bit x86 hosts and qemu-system-i386 Thomas Huth
2023-02-27 11:50   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-27 20:12     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-27 20:21       ` Richard Henderson
2023-02-28  8:59         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 12:26           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-28  9:00         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 16:57           ` Richard Henderson
2023-02-27 22:32       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-28  7:43         ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28  7:49       ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28  8:19         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28  8:59           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-28  9:03             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28  9:14               ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28  9:40                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-28 10:11                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 10:39                     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-28 10:51                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 11:12                         ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28 11:24                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 11:27                             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-28 11:34                         ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-28 11:45                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-27 20:25     ` Richard Henderson
2023-02-28  7:52       ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-27 11:10 ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2023-02-27 18:38 ` [PATCH 0/2] Deprecate support for 32-bit x86 and arm hosts Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-28  7:39   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28  9:01     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-28 11:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 20:05       ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-28 21:32         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01  6:38           ` Thomas Huth
2023-03-01  7:35           ` Markus Armbruster
2023-03-01  7:46             ` Warner Losh

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