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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Berrange <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, "Maxim Levitsky" <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"Reinoud Zandijk" <reinoud@netbsd.org>,
	"Wilfred Mallawa" <wilfred.mallawa@wdc.com>,
	"John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Subject: [PATCH v4 1/5] docs/about/deprecated: Deprecate 32-bit x86 hosts for system emulation
Date: Mon,  6 Mar 2023 09:46:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230306084658.29709-2-thuth@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230306084658.29709-1-thuth@redhat.com>

Hardly anybody still uses 32-bit x86 hosts today, so we should start
deprecating them to stop wasting our time and CI minutes here.
For example, there are also still some unresolved problems with these:
When emulating 64-bit binaries in user mode, TCG does not honor atomicity
for 64-bit accesses, which is "perhaps worse than not working at all"
(quoting Richard). Let's simply make it clear that people should use
64-bit x86 hosts nowadays and we do not intend to fix/maintain the old
32-bit stuff.

Reviewed-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
Reviewed-by: Wilfred Mallawa <wilfred.mallawa@wdc.com>
Signed-off-by: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
---
 docs/about/deprecated.rst | 11 +++++++++++
 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)

diff --git a/docs/about/deprecated.rst b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
index 15084f7bea..1ca9dc33d6 100644
--- a/docs/about/deprecated.rst
+++ b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
@@ -196,6 +196,17 @@ CI coverage support may bitrot away before the deprecation process
 completes. The little endian variants of MIPS (both 32 and 64 bit) are
 still a supported host architecture.
 
+System emulation on 32-bit x86 hosts (since 8.0)
+''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
+
+Support for 32-bit x86 host deployments is increasingly uncommon in mainstream
+OS distributions given the widespread availability of 64-bit x86 hardware.
+The QEMU project no longer considers 32-bit x86 support for system emulation to
+be an effective use of its limited resources, and thus intends to discontinue
+it. Since all recent x86 hardware from the past >10 years is capable of the
+64-bit x86 extensions, a corresponding 64-bit OS should be used instead.
+
+
 QEMU API (QAPI) events
 ----------------------
 
-- 
2.31.1



  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-06  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-06  8:46 [PATCH v4 0/5] Deprecate system emulation support for 32-bit x86 and arm hosts Thomas Huth
2023-03-06  8:46 ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2023-03-06  8:46 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] docs/about/deprecated: Deprecate the qemu-system-i386 binary Thomas Huth
2023-03-06  9:27   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-06  9:54     ` Thomas Huth
2023-03-06  9:58       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-06 13:48     ` Thomas Huth
2023-03-06 14:06       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-06 14:18         ` Thomas Huth
2023-03-06 14:25           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-06 14:58             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-06 14:56         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-03-06  8:46 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] gitlab-ci.d/crossbuilds: Drop the i386 system emulation job Thomas Huth
2023-03-06  9:19   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-03-06  8:46 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] docs/about/deprecated: Deprecate 32-bit arm hosts for system emulation Thomas Huth
2023-03-06  9:23   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-03-07  2:43   ` Richard Henderson
2023-03-06  8:46 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] gitlab-ci.d/crossbuilds: Drop the 32-bit arm system emulation jobs Thomas Huth

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