From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Ani Sinha <anisinha@redhat.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, jusual@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] acpi: pcihp: make pending delete expire in 5sec
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 15:56:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230404155622.4525ee14@imammedo.users.ipa.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230404084019-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 08:40:45 -0400
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 01:06:38PM +0530, Ani Sinha wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > > Allowing pending delete expire brings ACPI PCI hotplug on par
> > > > > with native PCIe unplug behavior [1] which in its turn refers
> > > > > back to ACPI PCI hotplug ability to repeat unplug requests.
> > >
> > > > A bit concerned about how this interacts with failover,
> > > > and 5sec is a lot of time that I hoped we'd avoid with acpi.
> > > > Any better ideas of catching such misbehaving guests?
> > >
> > > The 5sec are coming from the pcie spec: The hot-unplug request can be
> > > canceled within 5 seconds by pressing the button again. The problem here
> > > is that both hotplug and hot-unplug use the same signaling path, so we
> > > really have to wait the 5 seconds to avoid the OS mis-interpreting the
> > > button press as 'cancel' event.
> > >
> > > ACPI hotplug hasn't this problem. A unplug request is a unplug request,
> >
> > For ACPI case, I think all we want is to make sure that the first unplug
> > event to not stick forever. A non-zero but small delay would make sure
> > that the first
> > unplug event would get cleared after that interval and subsequent unplug
> > events will get registered without that error.
> >
> > > period. And it can't be canceled. So it should be possible to use a
> > > shorter period. Possibly even no delay at all.
> > >
> > > take care,
> > > Gerd
> > >
> > >
>
>
> But why do we want a delay at all? for acpi you can resend
> the interrupt as many times as you like.
yep, we can. It makes possible for user to cause limited
"interrupt storm". That also leads to device_del abuse [1]
1) https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg952738.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-04 13:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-03 16:16 [PATCH] acpi: pcihp: make pending delete expire in 5sec Igor Mammedov
2023-04-03 17:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-04 7:03 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-04 7:36 ` Ani Sinha
2023-04-04 12:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-04 13:56 ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2023-04-04 8:30 ` Igor Mammedov
2023-04-04 10:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-06 11:46 ` Igor Mammedov
2023-04-06 12:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-04 8:28 ` Igor Mammedov
2023-04-04 12:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-04 14:04 ` Igor Mammedov
2023-04-04 14:10 ` Ani Sinha
2023-04-04 14:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-04 14:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05 7:30 ` Igor Mammedov
2023-04-05 8:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05 9:24 ` Igor Mammedov
2023-04-05 9:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05 12:03 ` Igor Mammedov
2023-04-05 12:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-05 12:32 ` Ani Sinha
2023-04-04 14:11 ` Ani Sinha
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