From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Andrey Ryabinin <arbn@yandex-team.com>
Cc: Raphael Norwitz <raphael.norwitz@nutanix.com>,
Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Hanna Reitz <hreitz@redhat.com>,
"open list:Block layer core" <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Yongji Xie <xieyongji@baidu.com>, Chai Wen <chaiwen@baidu.com>,
Ni Xun <nixun@baidu.com>,
"d-tatianin@yandex-team.com" <d-tatianin@yandex-team.com>,
"yc-core@yandex-team.com" <yc-core@yandex-team.com>,
"vsementsov@yandex-team.com" <vsementsov@yandex-team.com>,
"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block/vhost-user-blk: Fix hang on boot for some odd guests
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 04:06:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230421040200-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <017e139d-211f-7917-0461-71ab57eefbbe@yandex-team.com>
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 07:20:29PM +0200, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
>
>
> On 4/18/23 08:17, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 05:13:11AM +0000, Raphael Norwitz wrote:
> >> Hey Andrey - apologies for the late reply here.
> >>
> >> It sounds like you are dealing with a buggy guest, rather than a QEMU issue.
> >>
> >>> On Apr 10, 2023, at 11:39 AM, Andrey Ryabinin <arbn@yandex-team.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 4/10/23 10:35, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> >>>> Some guests hang on boot when using the vhost-user-blk-pci device,
> >>>> but boot normally when using the virtio-blk device. The problem occurs
> >>>> because the guest advertises VIRTIO_F_VERSION_1 but kicks the virtqueue
> >>>> before setting VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_DRIVER_OK, causing vdev->start_on_kick to
> >>
> >> Virtio 1.1 Section 3.1.1, says during setup “[t]he driver MUST NOT notify the device before setting DRIVER_OK.”
> >>
> >> Therefore what you are describing is buggy guest behavior. Sounds like the driver should be made to either
> >> - not advertise VIRTIO_F_VERSION_1
> >> - not kick before setting VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_DRIVER_OK
> >>
> >> If anything, the virtio-blk virtio_blk_handle_output() function should probably check start_on_kick?
> >
> > Question is, how easy is this guest to fix.
> >
>
> I wouldn't count on that.
>
> In this case the guest is Foritgate firewall, apparently from this guys https://www.fortinet.com/
> It seems that the kernel they use claims itself as 3.2.16 Linux kernel, however it looks like
> it's not vanilla kernel, but modified with some backports. I'm guessing that they backported
> the patches introducing VIRTIO_F_VERSTION_1, but they didn't add this patch https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=7a11370e5e6c26566904bb7f08281093a3002ff2
>
> I've tried to look the sources of the kernel they use but failed to find any.
> Found only some news about gpl voilation from 2005 )
All I remember is this is a can of worms, the change seems risky
frankly. If you like, I'm open to an unstable property
(starting with "x-") that forces start on kick.
Will be handy for debugging too.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-21 8:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-10 8:35 [PATCH] block/vhost-user-blk: Fix hang on boot for some odd guests Andrey Ryabinin
2023-04-10 15:39 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2023-04-18 5:13 ` Raphael Norwitz
2023-04-18 6:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-18 17:20 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2023-04-21 8:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-04-18 16:37 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2023-04-18 16:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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