From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: "T.J. Alumbaugh" <talumbau@google.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Yuanchu Xie" <yuanchu@google.com>,
"Yu Zhao" <yuzhao@google.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dave@treblig.org>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Yanan Wang" <wangyanan55@huawei.com>,
"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/5] virtio-balloon: Add Working Set Reporting feature
Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 06:28:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230531062642-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ada6956d-028f-2c62-d3f9-3d6b2ae3c42e@redhat.com>
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:12:26AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 26.05.23 00:20, T.J. Alumbaugh wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> please try writing a comprehensive patch description: the goal should be
> that one can understand what's happening in the single patch without all of
> the following patches at hand. [ that's how I am reading them, and ahve to
> ask many stupid questions :P ]
>
> > Balloon header includes:
> > - feature bit for Working Set Reporting
> > - number of Working Set bins member in balloon config
> > - types for communicating Working Set information
> >
>
> Can you briefly summarize how all the bits here interact?
>
> I assume, once VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_WS_REPORTING has been negotiated
>
> (1) There is a new virtqueue for sending WS-related requests from the
> device (host) to the driver (guest).
this belongs in driver description, indeed.
> -> How does a request look like?
> -> How does a response look like?
> -> Error cases?
These last 3 are best in the spec, not in driver.
> (2) There is a new config space option.
>
> -> Who's supposed to read this, who's supposed to write it?
> -> Can it be changed dynamically?
> -> What's the meaning / implication of that value.
same. best in spec.
> > Signed-off-by: T.J. Alumbaugh <talumbau@google.com>
> > ---
> > .../standard-headers/linux/virtio_balloon.h | 20 +++++++++++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 20 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/standard-headers/linux/virtio_balloon.h b/include/standard-headers/linux/virtio_balloon.h
> > index f343bfefd8..df61eaceee 100644
> > --- a/include/standard-headers/linux/virtio_balloon.h
> > +++ b/include/standard-headers/linux/virtio_balloon.h
> > @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@
> > #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT 3 /* VQ to report free pages */
> > #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_PAGE_POISON 4 /* Guest is using page poisoning */
> > #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_REPORTING 5 /* Page reporting virtqueue */
> > +#define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_WS_REPORTING 6 /* Working set report virtqueues */
>
> ... are there multiple virtqueues? How many?
>
> > /* Size of a PFN in the balloon interface. */
> > #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT 12
> > @@ -59,6 +60,9 @@ struct virtio_balloon_config {
> > };
> > /* Stores PAGE_POISON if page poisoning is in use */
> > uint32_t poison_val;
> > + /* Stores the number of histogram bins if WS reporting in use */
> > + uint8_t working_set_num_bins;
> > + uint8_t padding[3];
> > };
> > #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_S_SWAP_IN 0 /* Amount of memory swapped in */
> > @@ -116,4 +120,20 @@ struct virtio_balloon_stat {
> > __virtio64 val;
> > } QEMU_PACKED;
> > +enum virtio_balloon_working_set_op {
> > + VIRTIO_BALLOON_WS_REQUEST = 1, /* a Working Set request from the host */
> > + VIRTIO_BALLOON_WS_CONFIG = 2, /* a Working Set config from the host */
> > +};
> > +
> > +struct virtio_balloon_working_set {
> > + /* A tag for additional metadata */
> > + __virtio16 tag;
> > + /* The NUMA node for this report. */
> > + __virtio16 node_id;
>
> How will we handle the case when the guest decides to use a different NUMA
> layout (e.g., numa disabled, fake numa, ...).
>
> Is the guest supposed to detect that and *not* indicate a NUMA ID then?
>
>
> Also, I wonder
>
> > + uint8_t reserved[4];
> > + __virtio64 idle_age_ms;
> > + /* A bin each for anonymous and file-backed memory. */
>
> Why not have them separately, and properly named?
>
> I'm not sure if it's a good idea to distinguish them based on anon vs.
> file-backed.
>
> What would you do with shmem? It can be swapped like anon memory, ... if
> swap is enabled.
>
> What's the main motivation for splitting this up? Is the "file-backed" part
> supposed to give some idea about the pagecache size? But what about mlock or
> page pinning?
>
>
> Now I should take a step back and read the cover letter :)
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-31 10:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-25 22:20 [RFC PATCH v2 0/5] virtio-balloon: Working Set Reporting T.J. Alumbaugh
2023-05-25 22:20 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/5] virtio-balloon: Add Working Set Reporting feature T.J. Alumbaugh
2023-05-31 8:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-31 10:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-05-25 22:20 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/5] virtio-balloon: device has Working Set Reporting T.J. Alumbaugh
2023-05-27 6:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-05-27 6:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-05-25 22:20 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/5] virtio-balloon: Add QMP functions for Working Set T.J. Alumbaugh
2023-05-27 6:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-05-31 8:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-25 22:20 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/5] virtio-balloon: Add HMP " T.J. Alumbaugh
2023-05-25 22:20 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/5] virtio-balloon: Migration of working set config T.J. Alumbaugh
2023-05-31 8:18 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/5] virtio-balloon: Working Set Reporting David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07 9:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-04-09 16:52 ` Yuanchu Xie
2025-04-10 6:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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