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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	German Maglione <gmaglione@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vhost-user.rst: Clarify enabling/disabling vrings
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 07:17:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230712071357-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230712091704.15589-1-hreitz@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:17:04AM +0200, Hanna Czenczek wrote:
> Currently, the vhost-user documentation says that rings are to be
> initialized in a disabled state when VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES is
> negotiated.  However, by the time of feature negotiation, all rings have
> already been initialized, so it is not entirely clear what this means.
> 
> At least the vhost-user-backend Rust crate's implementation interpreted
> it to mean that whenever this feature is negotiated, all rings are to be
> put into a disabled state, which means that every SET_FEATURES call
> would disable all rings, effectively halting the device.  This is
> problematic because the VHOST_F_LOG_ALL feature is also set or cleared
> this way, which happens during migration.  Doing so should not halt the
> device.
> 
> Other implementations have interpreted this to mean that the device is
> to be initialized with all rings disabled, and a subsequent SET_FEATURES
> call that does not set VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES will enable all of
> them.  Here, SET_FEATURES will never disable any ring.

Huh. I don't know why we don't set VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES
on all calls though. I think it's a bug. Let's fix that first of all?
Then we can still document behaviour of existing buggy QEMU.

> This other interpretation does not suffer the problem of unintentionally
> halting the device whenever features are set or cleared, so it seems
> better and more reasonable.
> 
> We should clarify this in the documentation.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
> ---
>  docs/interop/vhost-user.rst | 23 +++++++++++++++++------
>  1 file changed, 17 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/docs/interop/vhost-user.rst b/docs/interop/vhost-user.rst
> index 5a070adbc1..ca0e899765 100644
> --- a/docs/interop/vhost-user.rst
> +++ b/docs/interop/vhost-user.rst
> @@ -383,12 +383,23 @@ and stop ring upon receiving ``VHOST_USER_GET_VRING_BASE``.
>  
>  Rings can be enabled or disabled by ``VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE``.
>  
> -If ``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES`` has not been negotiated, the
> -ring starts directly in the enabled state.
> -
> -If ``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES`` has been negotiated, the ring is
> -initialized in a disabled state and is enabled by
> -``VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE`` with parameter 1.
> +Between initialization and the first ``VHOST_USER_SET_FEATURES`` call, it
> +is implementation-defined whether each ring is enabled or disabled.
> +
> +If ``VHOST_USER_SET_FEATURES`` does not negotiate
> +``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES``, each ring, when started, will be
> +enabled immediately.
> +
> +If ``VHOST_USER_SET_FEATURES`` does negotiate
> +``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES``, each ring will remain in the disabled
> +state until ``VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE`` enables it with parameter 1.
> +
> +Back-end implementations that support ``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES``
> +should implement this by initializing each ring in a disabled state, and
> +enabling them when ``VHOST_USER_SET_FEATURES`` is used without
> +negotiating ``VHOST_USER_F_PROTOCOL_FEATURES``.  Other than that, rings
> +should only be enabled and disabled through
> +``VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE``.
>  
>  While processing the rings (whether they are enabled or not), the back-end
>  must support changing some configuration aspects on the fly.
> -- 
> 2.41.0



  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-12 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-12  9:17 [PATCH] vhost-user.rst: Clarify enabling/disabling vrings Hanna Czenczek
2023-07-12 11:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-07-12 11:27   ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-07-18 15:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-07-19 13:33   ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-07-19 14:03     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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