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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Eric Auger" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
	"Duan, Zhenzhong" <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"nicolinc@nvidia.com" <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"Martins, Joao" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	"peterx@redhat.com" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Sun, Yi Y" <yi.y.sun@intel.com>,
	"Peng, Chao P" <chao.p.peng@intel.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 15/22] Add iommufd configure option
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 12:17:24 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230920121724.381716d4.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230920174919.GF13733@nvidia.com>

On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:49:19 -0300
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 07:37:53PM +0200, Eric Auger wrote:
> 
> > >> qemu will typically not be able to
> > >> self-open /dev/iommufd as it is root-only.  
> > >
> > > I don't understand, we open multiple fds to KVM devices. This is the
> > > same.  
> > Actually qemu opens the /dev/iommu in case no fd is passed along with
> > the iommufd object. This is done in
> > [PATCH v1 16/22] backends/iommufd: Introduce the iommufd object, in
> > 
> > iommufd_backend_connect(). I don't understand either.  
> 
> The char dev node is root only so this automatic behvaior is fine
> but not useful if qmeu is running in a sandbox.
> 
> I'm not sure what "multiple fds to KVM devices" means, I don't know
> anything about kvm devices..

Looking at a local VM, the only kvm related open file is /dev/kvm,
which kvm_init() does directly open.  The other tun/tap/vhost files are
all passed by fd.  We have a bunch of anon_inodes representing eventfds
and vcpu source from /dev/kvm, but the only other direct files are disk
images and the created pid file.
 
> The iommufd design requires one open of the /dev/iommu to be shared
> across all the vfios.

"requires"?  It's certainly of limited value to have multiple iommufd
instances rather than create multiple address spaces within a single
iommufd, but what exactly precludes an iommufd per device if QEMU, or
any other userspace so desired?  Thanks,

Alex



  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-20 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-30 10:37 [PATCH v1 00/22] vfio: Adopt iommufd Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 01/22] scripts/update-linux-headers: Add iommufd.h Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 02/22] Update linux-header to support iommufd cdev and hwpt alloc Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-14 14:46   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-15  3:02     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 11:04       ` Eric Auger
2023-09-20 11:15         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 03/22] vfio/common: Move IOMMU agnostic helpers to a separate file Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 04/22] vfio/common: Introduce vfio_container_add|del_section_window() Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 11:23   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-20 12:18     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21  8:28   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 10:14     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 10:55       ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-27  2:08       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-27  6:50         ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 05/22] vfio/common: Extract out vfio_kvm_device_[add/del]_fd Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 11:49   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  2:04     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21  8:42     ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 10:22       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 10:53         ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 21:39   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21  6:03     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 06/22] vfio/common: Add a vfio device iterator Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 12:25   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  2:27     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 22:16   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21  2:16     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 07/22] vfio/common: Refactor vfio_viommu_preset() to be group agnostic Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 13:00   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  2:52     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 22:51   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21  6:13     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 08/22] vfio/common: Move legacy VFIO backend code into separate container.c Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 13:12   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  3:02     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 09/22] vfio/container: Introduce vfio_[attach/detach]_device Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 13:33   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  3:08     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21  9:44   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 10:26     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 10/22] vfio/platform: Use vfio_[attach/detach]_device Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-21 12:17   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 11/22] vfio/ap: " Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 12/22] vfio/ccw: " Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-21 12:19   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 13:00     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 13:24       ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 13/22] vfio: Add base container Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-19 17:23   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20  8:48     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 12:57       ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 13:58         ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  2:51         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 13:53     ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  3:12       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 17:31     ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  3:35       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21  6:28         ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21 17:20         ` Eric Auger
2023-09-22  2:52           ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 14/22] vfio/common: Simplify vfio_viommu_preset() Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-19 16:01   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20  2:59     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 15/22] Add iommufd configure option Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-19 17:07   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20  3:42     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 12:19       ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 12:51         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 13:01           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-20 13:07             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 13:02           ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 17:37             ` Eric Auger
2023-09-20 17:49               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 18:17                 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2023-09-20 18:19                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21  3:43                     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-26  6:05                     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-09-21  4:00             ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21  2:11         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 18:01       ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-20 18:12         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 20:29           ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-20 18:15         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 16/22] backends/iommufd: Introduce the iommufd object Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-22  7:15   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-22  8:39     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 17/22] util/char_dev: Add open_cdev() Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 12:39   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-20 12:53     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 12:56       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-21  2:37     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 18/22] vfio/iommufd: Implement the iommufd backend Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 19/22] vfio/iommufd: Add vfio device iterator callback for iommufd Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 20/22] vfio/pci: Adapt vfio pci hot reset support with iommufd BE Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 21/22] vfio/pci: Allow the selection of a given iommu backend Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-06 18:10   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-06 19:09     ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-07  1:10       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-07  2:27         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 22/22] vfio/pci: Make vfio cdev pre-openable by passing a file handle Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-14  9:04 ` [PATCH v1 00/22] vfio: Adopt iommufd Eric Auger
2023-09-14  9:27   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-15 12:42 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-15 13:14   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-18 11:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-18 12:23     ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-18 17:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe

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