From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: "Duan, Zhenzhong" <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"nicolinc@nvidia.com" <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
"Martins, Joao" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
"eric.auger@redhat.com" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
"peterx@redhat.com" <peterx@redhat.com>,
"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
"Sun, Yi Y" <yi.y.sun@intel.com>,
"Peng, Chao P" <chao.p.peng@intel.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Laine Stump" <laine@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 15/22] Add iommufd configure option
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:12:59 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230920181259.GH13733@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230920120142.1a517d0c.alex.williamson@redhat.com>
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 12:01:42PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 03:42:20 +0000
> "Duan, Zhenzhong" <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com> wrote:
>
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Cédric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:08 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 15/22] Add iommufd configure option
> > >
> > >On 8/30/23 12:37, Zhenzhong Duan wrote:
> > >> This adds "--enable-iommufd/--disable-iommufd" to enable or disable
> > >> iommufd support, enabled by default.
> > >
> > >Why would someone want to disable support at compile time ? It might
> >
> > For those users who only want to support legacy container feature?
> > Let me know if you still prefer to drop this patch, I'm fine with that.
> >
> > >have been useful for dev but now QEMU should self-adjust at runtime
> > >depending only on the host capabilities AFAIUI. Am I missing something ?
> >
> > IOMMUFD doesn't support all features of legacy container, so QEMU
> > doesn't self-adjust at runtime by checking if host supports IOMMUFD.
> > We need to specify it explicitly to use IOMMUFD as below:
> >
> > -object iommufd,id=iommufd0
> > -device vfio-pci,host=0000:02:00.0,iommufd=iommufd0
>
> There's an important point here that maybe we've let slip for too long.
> Laine had asked in an internal forum whether the switch to IOMMUFD was
> visible to the guest. I replied that it wasn't, but this note about
> IOMMUFD vs container features jogged my memory that I think we still
> lack p2p support with IOMMUFD, ie. IOMMU mapping of device MMIO. It
> seemed like there was something else too, but I don't recall without
> some research.
I think p2p is the only guest visible one.
I still expect to solve it :\
> Ideally we'd have feature parity and libvirt could simply use the
> native IOMMUFD interface whenever both the kernel and QEMU support it.
>
> Without that parity, when does libvirt decide to use IOMMUFD?
>
> How would libvirt know if some future IOMMUFD does have parity?
At this point I think it is reasonable that iommufd is explicitly
opted into.
The next step would be automatic for single PCI device VMs (p2p is not
relavent)
The final step would be automatic if kernel supports P2P. I expect
libvirt will be able to detect this from an open'd /dev/iommu.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-20 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-30 10:37 [PATCH v1 00/22] vfio: Adopt iommufd Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 01/22] scripts/update-linux-headers: Add iommufd.h Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 02/22] Update linux-header to support iommufd cdev and hwpt alloc Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-14 14:46 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-15 3:02 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 11:04 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-20 11:15 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 03/22] vfio/common: Move IOMMU agnostic helpers to a separate file Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 04/22] vfio/common: Introduce vfio_container_add|del_section_window() Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 11:23 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-20 12:18 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 8:28 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 10:14 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 10:55 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-27 2:08 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-27 6:50 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 05/22] vfio/common: Extract out vfio_kvm_device_[add/del]_fd Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 11:49 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21 2:04 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 8:42 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 10:22 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 10:53 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 21:39 ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21 6:03 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 06/22] vfio/common: Add a vfio device iterator Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 12:25 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21 2:27 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 22:16 ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21 2:16 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 07/22] vfio/common: Refactor vfio_viommu_preset() to be group agnostic Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 13:00 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21 2:52 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 22:51 ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21 6:13 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 08/22] vfio/common: Move legacy VFIO backend code into separate container.c Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 13:12 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21 3:02 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 09/22] vfio/container: Introduce vfio_[attach/detach]_device Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 13:33 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21 3:08 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 9:44 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 10:26 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 10/22] vfio/platform: Use vfio_[attach/detach]_device Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-21 12:17 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 11/22] vfio/ap: " Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 12/22] vfio/ccw: " Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-21 12:19 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 13:00 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 13:24 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 13/22] vfio: Add base container Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-19 17:23 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 8:48 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 12:57 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 13:58 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21 2:51 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 13:53 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21 3:12 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 17:31 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21 3:35 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 6:28 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21 17:20 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-22 2:52 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 14/22] vfio/common: Simplify vfio_viommu_preset() Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-19 16:01 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 2:59 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 15/22] Add iommufd configure option Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-19 17:07 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 3:42 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 12:19 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 12:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 13:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-20 13:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 13:02 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 17:37 ` Eric Auger
2023-09-20 17:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 18:17 ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-20 18:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 3:43 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-26 6:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-09-21 4:00 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 2:11 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 18:01 ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-20 18:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-09-20 20:29 ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-20 18:15 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 16/22] backends/iommufd: Introduce the iommufd object Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-22 7:15 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-22 8:39 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 17/22] util/char_dev: Add open_cdev() Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 12:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-20 12:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 12:56 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-21 2:37 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 18/22] vfio/iommufd: Implement the iommufd backend Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 19/22] vfio/iommufd: Add vfio device iterator callback for iommufd Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 20/22] vfio/pci: Adapt vfio pci hot reset support with iommufd BE Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 21/22] vfio/pci: Allow the selection of a given iommu backend Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-06 18:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-06 19:09 ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-07 1:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-07 2:27 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 22/22] vfio/pci: Make vfio cdev pre-openable by passing a file handle Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-14 9:04 ` [PATCH v1 00/22] vfio: Adopt iommufd Eric Auger
2023-09-14 9:27 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-15 12:42 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-15 13:14 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-18 11:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-18 12:23 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-18 17:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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