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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>
Cc: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Andrew Melnychenko <andrew@daynix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 11/21] virtio-net: Return an error when vhost cannot enable RSS
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2023 09:18:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231102091717-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOEp5OdEudOFXuitG2NSBfuCQiwFJ72rYZsyvLFRfKR4kQvTDg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 02:00:46PM +0200, Yuri Benditovich wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 1:26 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>     On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 12:20:39PM +0200, Yuri Benditovich wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 11:33 AM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >     On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 11:09:27AM +0200, Yuri Benditovich wrote:
>     >     > Probably we mix two different patches in this discussion.
>     >     > Focusing on the patch in the e-mail header:
>     >     >
>     >     > IMO it is not acceptable to fail QEMU run for one feature that we
>     can't
>     >     make
>     >     > active when we silently drop all other features in such a case.
>     >
>     >     If the feature is off by default then it seems more reasonable
>     >     and silent masking can be seen as a bug.
>     >     Most virtio features are on by default this is why it's
>     >     reasonable to mask them.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > If we are talking about RSS: setting it initially off is the development
>     time
>     > decision. 
>     > When it will be completely stable there is no reason to keep it off by
>     default,
>     > so this is more a question of time and of a readiness of libvirt. 
> 
>     Well when we flip the default we'll need compat machinery for sure ;)
> 
> 
> Of course, on the flip or default we'll need to keep compatibility to earlier
> machine types.
> But, because in the perspective it makes sense to make the RSS is on by
> default, I do not think we need _now_ to make qemu fail to start if the ebpf
> can't be loaded.
>  

Generally if user asks for something and we can't do it, we must fail.
If we can't apply a default we need a better default.
qemu has a bug in that it can't generally distinguish between default set
automatically and same default given on command line.

-- 
MST



  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-02 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-30  5:12 [PATCH v6 00/21] virtio-net RSS/hash report fixes and improvements Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 01/21] tap: Remove tap_probe_vnet_hdr_len() Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 02/21] tap: Remove qemu_using_vnet_hdr() Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 03/21] net: Move virtio-net header length assertion Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 04/21] net: Remove receive_raw() Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 05/21] tap: Remove tap_receive() Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30 18:52   ` Zhang, Chen
2023-10-31  4:57     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 06/21] net: Remove flag propagation Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-10  7:35   ` Pavel Dovgalyuk
2023-11-11 14:27     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-13  8:14       ` Pavel Dovgalyuk
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 07/21] tap: Shrink zeroed virtio-net header Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 08/21] virtio-net: Copy header only when necessary Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 09/21] virtio-net: Disable RSS on reset Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 10/21] virtio-net: Unify the logic to update NIC state for RSS Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 11/21] virtio-net: Return an error when vhost cannot enable RSS Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30 12:14   ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-10-30 12:21     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30 12:51       ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-10-30 13:14         ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-01  4:19           ` Jason Wang
2023-11-01  4:50             ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-01  6:38               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01  8:35                 ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-01  9:09                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-01  9:15                     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-02  9:09                       ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-02  9:33                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-02 10:20                           ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-02 11:26                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-02 12:00                               ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-02 13:18                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-11-02 14:56                             ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-03  9:35                               ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-03  9:55                                 ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-03 13:14                                   ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-11 15:28                                     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-13 11:44                                       ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-13 12:44                                         ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-13 17:26                                           ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-14  7:03                                             ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-14 22:09                                               ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-11-15  6:09                                                 ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-16  5:14                                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 12/21] virtio-net: Enable software RSS Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30 12:42   ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 13/21] virtio-net: Always set populate_hash Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30 19:02   ` Zhang, Chen
2023-10-31  4:47     ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 14/21] virtio-net: Do not write hashes to peer buffer Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 15/21] virtio-net: Do not clear VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT Akihiko Odaki
2023-11-03 13:26   ` Yuri Benditovich
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 16/21] ebpf: Fix RSS error handling Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 17/21] ebpf: Use standard section name Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 18/21] ebpf: Simplify error handling Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 19/21] ebpf: Return 0 when configuration fails Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 20/21] ebpf: Refactor tun_rss_steering_prog() Akihiko Odaki
2023-10-30  5:12 ` [PATCH v6 21/21] ebpf: Add a separate target for skeleton Akihiko Odaki

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