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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@csgraf.de>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>, "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] docs: introduce dedicated page about code provenance / sign-off
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 06:27:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231124062012-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92246d2d-6d0e-416d-914b-08bb1fb0eac7@linaro.org>

On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 12:11:30PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 23/11/23 18:33, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 05:16:45PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 09:25:13AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 11:40:25AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > > > Currently we have a short paragraph saying that patches must include
> > > > > a Signed-off-by line, and merely link to the kernel documentation.
> > > > > The linked kernel docs have alot of content beyond the part about
> > > > > sign-off an thus is misleading/distracting to QEMU contributors.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This introduces a dedicated 'code-provenance' page in QEMU talking
> > > > > about why we require sign-off, explaining the other tags we commonly
> > > > > use, and what to do in some edge cases.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > +  * The non-primary author's contributions were so trivial that
> > > > > +    they can be considered not subject to copyright. In this case
> > > > > +    the secondary authors need not include a ``Signed-off-by``.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +    This case most commonly applies where QEMU reviewers give short
> > > > > +    snippets of code as suggested fixes to a patch. The reviewers
> > > > > +    don't need to have their own ``Signed-off-by`` added unless
> > > > > +    their code suggestion was unusually large.
> > > > 
> > > > It is still a good policy to include attribution, e.g.
> > > > by adding a Suggested-by tag.
> > > 
> > > Will add this tag.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> > > > > +Other commit tags
> > > > > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> 
> > > > As long as we are here, let's document Fixes: and Cc: ?
> > > 
> > > The submitting-a-patch doc covers more general commit message information.
> > > I think this doc just ought to focus on tags that identify humans involved
> > > in the process.
> > > 
> > > I've never been sure what the point of the 'Cc' tag is, when you actually
> > > want to use the Cc email header ?
> > > 
> > 
> > It records the fact that these people have been copied but did not
> > respond.
> This might be felt aggressive or forcing.
> My understanding of this Cc
> tag in a commit is "now that it is merged, you can't complain". We can
> be absent, sick, on holidays... If I missed a merged patch review I'll
> try to kindly ask on the list if it can be reworked, or suggest a patch
> to fix what I missed.

> Not sure this is really useful to commit that to the repository.

I don't see it as forcing. Sometimes I do a fly-by review of a patch
that caught my eye not in my area. Later people address my comments
and start copying me but I don't have time to re-review.
Recoding the fact that they copied me seems important.

This info might be helpful in git history for other reasons
- helps looking for someone to help review backports
- to guess at code quality - to help understand whether code had all the needed
  people copied


> 
> IMHO the only useful Cc tag is for qemu-stable@nongnu.org, as Kevin
> mentioned.
> 
> If you want to be sure your patch is Cc to a set of developers, you can
> add Cc: lines below the '---' patch separator. My 2 cents eh...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phil.


If people feel threatened by CC I don't have a problem to ask people
to put it in a note so it comes after ---.

-- 
MST



  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-24 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-23 11:40 [PATCH 0/2] docs: define policy forbidding use of "AI" / LLM code generators Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 11:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] docs: introduce dedicated page about code provenance / sign-off Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 11:58   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-23 17:08     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 23:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 13:01   ` Peter Maydell
2023-11-23 17:12     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 13:16   ` Kevin Wolf
2023-11-23 17:12     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 14:25   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 17:16     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 17:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:11         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-24 11:27           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-11-24  9:49       ` Kevin Wolf
2023-11-23 15:13   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-01-27 14:36   ` Zhao Liu
2024-01-29  9:31     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-01-29  9:35       ` Samuel Tardieu
2024-01-29 10:41         ` Peter Maydell
2024-01-29 11:00           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 11:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] docs: define policy forbidding use of "AI" / LLM code generators Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 12:57   ` Alex Bennée
2023-11-23 17:37     ` Michal Suchánek
2023-11-23 23:27       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 17:46     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 23:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 10:17         ` Kevin Wolf
2023-11-24 10:33           ` Alex Bennée
2023-11-24 10:42             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 10:43               ` Peter Maydell
2023-11-24 11:02                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:37                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-24 11:39                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:40                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 13:20   ` Kevin Wolf
2023-11-23 14:35   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 14:56     ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2023-11-23 15:13       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 15:29       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-23 17:06         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 17:29           ` Michal Suchánek
2023-11-23 18:05             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 15:32       ` Alex Bennée
2023-11-23 18:02       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 18:10         ` Peter Maydell
2023-11-24 10:25       ` Kevin Wolf
2023-11-24 10:37         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 10:42         ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2023-11-23 17:58     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 22:39       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24  9:06         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-24  9:27           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 10:21           ` Alex Bennée
2023-11-24 10:30             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:41             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 15:22   ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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