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Tsirkin" To: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=2E_Berrang=E9?= Cc: Peter Maydell , Alex =?iso-8859-1?Q?Benn=E9e?= , Kevin Wolf , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Richard Henderson , Alexander Graf , Paolo Bonzini , Markus Armbruster , Phil =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mathieu-Daud=E9?= , Stefan Hajnoczi , Thomas Huth , Gerd Hoffmann , Mark Cave-Ayland Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] docs: define policy forbidding use of "AI" / LLM code generators Message-ID: <20231124063951-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> References: <20231123114026.3589272-3-berrange@redhat.com> <87r0kgeiex.fsf@draig.linaro.org> <20231123183245-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <87edgfcueq.fsf@draig.linaro.org> <20231124053749-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20231124063831-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20231124063831-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.129.124; envelope-from=mst@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -21 X-Spam_score: -2.2 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.058, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:39:21AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 11:37:15AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 10:43:05AM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote: > > > On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 at 10:42, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 10:33:49AM +0000, Alex Bennée wrote: > > > > > That probably means we can never use even open source LLMs to generate > > > > > code for QEMU because while the source data is all open source it won't > > > > > necessarily be GPL compatible. > > > > > > > > I would probably wait until the dust settles before we start accepting > > > > LLM generated code. > > > > > > I think that's pretty much my take on what this policy is: > > > "say no for now; we can always come back later when the legal > > > situation seems clearer". > > > > Yes, that was my thoughts exactly. > > > > And if anyone comes along with a specific LLM/AI code generator that > > they believe can be used in a way compatible with the DCO, they can > > ask for an exception to the general policy which we can discuss then. > > Yea. But why do you keep worrying about LLM/AI mess? Are there code > generators whose output do allow? What are these? And to clarify I mean source code in the GPL sense so please do not say "compiler". -- MST