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From: Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info>
To: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "Dmitry Baryshkov" <dbaryshkov@gmail.com>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	paul.eggleton@linux.intel.com,
	"Andrea Adami" <andrea.adami@gmail.com>,
	"Guenter Roeck" <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"open list:ARM TCG CPUs" <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	"Marcin Juszkiewicz" <marcin.juszkiewicz@linaro.org>,
	"Aaro Koskinen" <aaro.koskinen@iki.fi>,
	"Janusz Krzysztofik" <jmkrzyszt@gmail.com>,
	"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
	Linux-OMAP <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Mack" <daniel@zonque.org>,
	"Robert Jarzmik" <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>,
	"Haojian Zhuang" <haojian.zhuang@gmail.com>,
	"Stefan Lehner" <stefan-lehner@aon.at>
Subject: Re: possible deprecation and removal of some old QEMU Arm machine types (pxa2xx, omap, sa1110)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 09:31:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240215093113.5c58cabe@aktux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <be4038e1-a578-4439-a9bf-e936484c64cc@app.fastmail.com>

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 23:42:58 +0100
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024, at 13:26, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 at 23:22, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org> wrote:  
> >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:12 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:  
> >> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2024, at 16:36, Guenter Roeck wrote:  
> >> > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 03:14:21PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:  
> >>
> >> Andrea Adami and Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov did the work in 2017 to
> >> modernize it a bit, and Russell helped out. I was under the impression
> >> that they only used real hardware though!  
> >
> > I used both Qemu and actual hardware (having collie, poodle, tosa and
> > c860 that was easy).
> >
> > The biggest issue with Zaurus PDAs was that supporting interesting
> > parts of the platform (PCMCIA, companion chips) required almost
> > rebootstrapping of the corresponding drivers.
> > E.g. I had a separate driver for the LoCoMo chip which worked properly
> > with the DT systems.
> > PCMCIA was a huuuge trouble and it didn't play well at all. The driver
> > must be rewritten to use the component framework.  
> 
> If we want to actually go there, I think the best option for PCMCIA
> support is likely to replace the entire "soc_common" pcmcia driver
> with a simple drivers/pata/ storage driver and no support for
> other cards. There was a driver until commit 38943cbd25a2
> ("ata: remove palmld pata driver") that could serve as an
> template.
> 
hmm, main usage for PCMCIA/CF in those devices was often something else,
not storage, at least on the IPAQ h2200. Wondering wether that road is
actually good. When I was mainly using those devices, I was not good in
mainlining things.
I loved that daylight-visible display.

Regards,
Andreas 


  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-15 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-12 12:32 possible deprecation and removal of some old QEMU Arm machine types (pxa2xx, omap, sa1110) Peter Maydell
2024-02-12 14:03 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-02-12 14:36 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-02-13 13:42   ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2024-02-13 14:36     ` Guenter Roeck
2024-02-13 15:14   ` Peter Maydell
2024-02-13 15:36     ` Guenter Roeck
2024-02-13 20:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-02-13 21:21         ` Linus Walleij
2024-02-14 10:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-02-14 12:26           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-14 13:39             ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2024-02-14 22:15               ` Andrea Adami
2024-02-14 22:42             ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-02-15  8:31               ` Andreas Kemnade [this message]
2024-02-15  8:45                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-02-15  8:52                   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-02-15 10:06                     ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2024-02-15 11:31                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2024-02-14  1:27         ` Aaro Koskinen
2024-02-14  5:53           ` Tony Lindgren
2024-02-14 14:57           ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-02-14  9:08         ` Daniel Mack
2024-03-08 15:41       ` Peter Maydell
2024-03-08 15:50         ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-15 17:13         ` Peter Maydell
2024-10-15 17:30           ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-15 17:35             ` Peter Maydell
2024-10-15 18:12               ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-17 12:42                 ` Peter Maydell
2024-10-17 14:12                   ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-17 14:29                     ` Peter Maydell
2024-10-17 15:29                       ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-17 16:07                         ` Peter Maydell
2024-10-17 17:53                           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-02-14  7:37 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-02-14  7:49   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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