From: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
To: "Wu, Fei" <fei2.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Alistair Francis <alistair23@gmail.com>,
Atish Kumar Patra <atishp@rivosinc.com>,
pbonzini@redhat.com, palmer@dabbelt.com,
alistair.francis@wdc.com, bin.meng@windriver.com,
liwei1518@gmail.com, dbarboza@ventanamicro.com,
zhiwei_liu@linux.alibaba.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
qemu-riscv@nongnu.org, andrei.warkentin@intel.com,
shaolin.xie@alibaba-inc.com, ved@rivosinc.com,
sunilvl@ventanamicro.com, haibo1.xu@intel.com,
evan.chai@intel.com, yin.wang@intel.com,
tech-server-platform@lists.riscv.org,
tech-server-soc@lists.riscv.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] hw/riscv: Add server platform reference machine
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:20:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240308-48ff9db3408048d387d6cfa4@orel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18efc373-b98b-4a9f-96c5-c6821793138f@intel.com>
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 02:26:18PM +0800, Wu, Fei wrote:
> On 3/7/2024 8:48 AM, Alistair Francis wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 5:13 AM Atish Kumar Patra <atishp@rivosinc.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 4:56 AM Wu, Fei <fei2.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 3/6/2024 8:19 AM, Alistair Francis wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 8:28 PM Fei Wu <fei2.wu@intel.com> wrote:
...
> >>>>> +config SERVER_PLATFORM_REF
> >>>>> + bool
> >>>>> + select RISCV_NUMA
> >>>>> + select GOLDFISH_RTC
> >>>>> + select PCI
> >>>>> + select PCI_EXPRESS_GENERIC_BRIDGE
> >>>>> + select PFLASH_CFI01
> >>>>> + select SERIAL
> >>>>> + select RISCV_ACLINT
> >>>>> + select RISCV_APLIC
> >>>>> + select RISCV_IMSIC
> >>>>> + select SIFIVE_TEST
> >>>>
> >>>> Do we really need SiFive Test in the server platform?
> >>>>
> >>> It's used to reset the system, is there any better choice?
> >
> > If we add this now we are stuck with it forever (or at least a long
> > time). So it'd be nice to think about these and decide if these really
> > are the best way to do things. We don't have to just copy the existing
> > virt machine.
> >
> We need a solution to poweroff/reboot, and sifive test is one of the
> hardware implementations, so in general I think it's okay. But I agree
> Sifive test looks a device for testing only.
>
> > There must be a more standard way to do this then MMIO mapped SiFive hardware?
> >
> The mapped MMIO mechanism leveraged by Sifive test by itself is kinda
> generic, the sbsa_ec for sbsa-ref is also an MMIO mapped device. These
> two devices look very similar except different encodings of the
> shutdown/reboot command.
>
> Probably we can have a generic shutdown/reboot device in QEMU for both
> sifive test and sbsa_ec, and likely more (not in this patch series). In
> this way, sifive test device will be replaced by this more generic
> device. Any suggestions?
Operating systems shouldn't need to implement odd-ball device drivers to
function on a reference of a standard platform. So the reference platform
should only be comprised of devices which have specifications and already,
or will, have DT bindings. Generic devices would be best, but I don't
think it should be a problem to use devices from multiple vendors. The
devices just need to allow GPL drivers to be written. With all that in
mind, what about adding a generic GPIO controller or using SiFive's GPIO
controller. Then, we could add gpio-restart and gpio-poweroff.
Thanks,
drew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-08 9:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-04 10:25 [RFC 0/2] Add RISC-V Server Platform Reference Board Fei Wu
2024-03-04 10:25 ` [RFC 1/2] hw/riscv: Add server platform reference machine Fei Wu
2024-03-04 19:35 ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2024-03-05 5:56 ` Wu, Fei
2024-03-05 9:15 ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2024-03-06 0:19 ` Alistair Francis
2024-03-06 12:55 ` Wu, Fei
2024-03-06 19:13 ` Atish Kumar Patra
2024-03-07 0:48 ` Alistair Francis
2024-03-07 6:26 ` Wu, Fei
2024-03-08 9:20 ` Andrew Jones [this message]
2024-03-11 11:55 ` [RISC-V][tech-server-platform] " Wu, Fei
2024-03-11 14:38 ` [RISC-V][tech-server-soc] " Andrew Jones
2024-03-12 0:19 ` Atish Kumar Patra
2024-03-06 0:27 ` Conor Dooley
2024-03-06 2:41 ` Wu, Fei
2024-03-04 10:25 ` [RFC 2/2] target/riscv: Add server platform reference cpu Fei Wu
2024-03-04 19:43 ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2024-03-05 5:58 ` [RISC-V][tech-server-soc] " Wu, Fei
2024-03-06 13:26 ` Wu, Fei
2024-03-07 7:36 ` Wu, Fei
2024-03-07 12:17 ` [RISC-V][tech-server-platform] " Heinrich Schuchardt
2024-03-07 19:27 ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2024-03-07 19:15 ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2024-03-12 12:33 ` Wu, Fei
2024-03-12 12:52 ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2024-03-04 11:02 ` [RISC-V][tech-server-platform] [RFC 0/2] Add RISC-V Server Platform Reference Board Heinrich Schuchardt
2024-03-04 11:42 ` Chai, Evan
2024-03-07 22:15 ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2024-03-12 8:59 ` Wu, Fei
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