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To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] ptp: Add vDSO-style vmclock support
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 17:49:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240726174958.00007d10@Huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98813a70f6d3377d3a9d502fd175be97334fcc87.camel@infradead.org>
On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:50:50 +0100
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2024-07-25 at 08:33 -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 01:31:19PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2024-07-25 at 08:29 -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 01:27:49PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 2024-07-25 at 08:17 -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 10:56:05AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > > > > > > Do you want to just help complete virtio-rtc then? Would be easier than
> > > > > > > > trying to keep two specs in sync.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The ACPI version is much more lightweight and doesn't take up a
> > > > > > > valuable PCI slot#. (I know, you can do virtio without PCI but that's
> > > > > > > complex in other ways).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hmm, should we support virtio over ACPI? Just asking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given that we support virtio DT bindings, and the ACPI "PRP0001" device
> > > > > exists with a DSM method which literally returns DT properties,
> > > > > including such properties as "compatible=virtio,mmio" ... do we
> > > > > already?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a sense, but you are saying that is too complex?
> > > > Can you elaborate?
> > >
> > > No, I think it's fine. I encourage the use of the PRP0001 device to
> > > expose DT devices through ACPI. I was just reminding you of its
> > > existence.
> >
> > Confused. You said "I know, you can do virtio without PCI but that's
> > complex in other ways" as the explanation why you are doing a custom
> > protocol.
>
> Ah, apologies, I wasn't thinking that far back in the conversation.
>
> If we wanted to support virtio over ACPI, I think PRP0001 can be made
> to work and isn't too complex (even though it probably doesn't yet work
> out of the box).
>
> But for the VMCLOCK thing, yes, the simple ACPI device is a lot simpler
> than virtio-rtc and much more attractive.
>
> Even if the virtio-rtc specification were official today, and I was
> able to expose it via PCI, I probably wouldn't do it that way. There's
> just far more in virtio-rtc than we need; the simple shared memory
> region is perfectly sufficient for most needs, and especially ours.
>
> I have reworked
> https://git.infradead.org/users/dwmw2/linux.git/shortlog/refs/heads/vmclock
> to take your other feedback into account.
>
> It's now more flexible about the size handling, and explicitly checking
> that specific fields are present before using them.
>
> I think I'm going to add a method on the ACPI device to enable the
> precise clock information. I haven't done that in the driver yet; it
> still just consumes the precise clock information if it happens to be
> present already. The enable method can be added in a compatible fashion
> (the failure mode is that guests which don't invoke this method when
> the hypervisor needs them to will see only the disruption signal and
> not precise time).
>
> For the HID I'm going to use AMZNVCLK. I had used QEMUVCLK in the QEMU
> patches, but I'll change that to use AMZNVCLK too when I repost the
> QEMU patch.
That doesn't fit with ACPI _HID definitions.
Second set 4 characters need to be hex digits as this is an
ACPI style ID (which I assume this is given AMZN is a valid
vendor ID. 6.1.5 in ACPI v6.5
Maybe I'm missing something...
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-26 16:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-24 17:16 [PATCH] ptp: Add vDSO-style vmclock support David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 5:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-25 9:56 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 11:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-25 11:53 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 12:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-07-25 12:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-25 12:27 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 12:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-25 12:31 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 12:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-25 13:50 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 14:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-25 15:18 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 16:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-25 19:35 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 20:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-25 21:00 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 21:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-25 21:29 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 21:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-25 22:20 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-26 6:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-26 8:35 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-26 12:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-26 13:00 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-26 13:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-26 13:08 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-26 5:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-26 5:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-26 8:06 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-26 12:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-26 12:51 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-26 16:49 ` Jonathan Cameron via [this message]
2024-07-26 18:28 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-28 10:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-28 13:07 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-28 15:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-29 6:45 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 5:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-25 10:00 ` David Woodhouse
2024-07-25 11:20 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-07-25 11:49 ` David Woodhouse
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