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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>
Cc: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	Jonah Palmer <jonah.palmer@oracle.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, peterx@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	lvivier@redhat.com, dtatulea@nvidia.com, leiyang@redhat.com,
	parav@mellanox.com, sgarzare@redhat.com, lingshan.zhu@intel.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/7] Move memory listener register to vhost_vdpa_init
Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 06:45:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250516064451-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16aee564-c2a5-418d-a865-935519c870fa@oracle.com>

On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 10:41:45AM -0700, Si-Wei Liu wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/14/2025 10:43 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 05:17:15PM -0700, Si-Wei Liu wrote:
> > > Hi Eugenio,
> > > 
> > > On 5/14/2025 8:49 AM, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> > > > On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 8:47 PM Jonah Palmer <jonah.palmer@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > > > Current memory operations like pinning may take a lot of time at the
> > > > > destination.  Currently they are done after the source of the migration is
> > > > > stopped, and before the workload is resumed at the destination.  This is a
> > > > > period where neigher traffic can flow, nor the VM workload can continue
> > > > > (downtime).
> > > > > 
> > > > > We can do better as we know the memory layout of the guest RAM at the
> > > > > destination from the moment that all devices are initializaed.  So
> > > > > moving that operation allows QEMU to communicate the kernel the maps
> > > > > while the workload is still running in the source, so Linux can start
> > > > > mapping them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > As a small drawback, there is a time in the initialization where QEMU
> > > > > cannot respond to QMP etc.  By some testing, this time is about
> > > > > 0.2seconds.  This may be further reduced (or increased) depending on the
> > > > > vdpa driver and the platform hardware, and it is dominated by the cost
> > > > > of memory pinning.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This matches the time that we move out of the called downtime window.
> > > > > The downtime is measured as checking the trace timestamp from the moment
> > > > > the source suspend the device to the moment the destination starts the
> > > > > eight and last virtqueue pair.  For a 39G guest, it goes from ~2.2526
> > > > > secs to 2.0949.
> > > > > 
> > > > Hi Jonah,
> > > > 
> > > > Could you update this benchmark? I don't think it changed a lot but
> > > > just to be as updated as possible.
> > > Jonah is off this week and will be back until next Tuesday, but I recall he
> > > indeed did some downtime test with VM with 128GB memory before taking off,
> > > which shows obvious improvement from around 10 seconds to 5.8 seconds after
> > > applying this series. Since this is related to update on the cover letter,
> > > would it be okay for you and Jason to ack now and then proceed to Michael
> > > for upcoming merge?
> > > 
> > > > I think I cannot ack the series as I sent the first revision. Jason or
> > > > Si-Wei, could you ack it?
> > > Sure, I just give my R-b, this series look good to me. Hopefully Jason can
> > > ack on his own.
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > > -Siwei
> > I just sent a pull, next one in a week or two, so - no rush.
> All right, should be good to wait. In any case you have to repost a v2 PULL,
> hope this series can be piggy-back'ed as we did extensive tests about it.
> ;-)
> 
> -Siwei

You mean "in case"?

> > 
> > 
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > > > Future directions on top of this series may include to move more things ahead
> > > > > of the migration time, like set DRIVER_OK or perform actual iterative migration
> > > > > of virtio-net devices.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Comments are welcome.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This series is a different approach of series [1]. As the title does not
> > > > > reflect the changes anymore, please refer to the previous one to know the
> > > > > series history.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This series is based on [2], it must be applied after it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > [Jonah Palmer]
> > > > > This series was rebased after [3] was pulled in, as [3] was a prerequisite
> > > > > fix for this series.
> > > > > 
> > > > > v4:
> > > > > ---
> > > > > * Add memory listener unregistration to vhost_vdpa_reset_device.
> > > > > * Remove memory listener unregistration from vhost_vdpa_reset_status.
> > > > > 
> > > > > v3:
> > > > > ---
> > > > > * Rebase
> > > > > 
> > > > > v2:
> > > > > ---
> > > > > * Move the memory listener registration to vhost_vdpa_set_owner function.
> > > > > * Move the iova_tree allocation to net_vhost_vdpa_init.
> > > > > 
> > > > > v1 at https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2024-01/msg02136.html.
> > > > > 
> > > > > [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/qemu-devel/cover/20231215172830.2540987-1-eperezma@redhat.com/
> > > > > [2] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2024-01/msg05910.html
> > > > > [3] https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20250217144936.3589907-1-jonah.palmer@oracle.com/
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jonah - note: I'll be on vacation from May 10-19. Will respond to
> > > > >                 comments when I return.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Eugenio Pérez (7):
> > > > >     vdpa: check for iova tree initialized at net_client_start
> > > > >     vdpa: reorder vhost_vdpa_set_backend_cap
> > > > >     vdpa: set backend capabilities at vhost_vdpa_init
> > > > >     vdpa: add listener_registered
> > > > >     vdpa: reorder listener assignment
> > > > >     vdpa: move iova_tree allocation to net_vhost_vdpa_init
> > > > >     vdpa: move memory listener register to vhost_vdpa_init
> > > > > 
> > > > >    hw/virtio/vhost-vdpa.c         | 107 +++++++++++++++++++++------------
> > > > >    include/hw/virtio/vhost-vdpa.h |  22 ++++++-
> > > > >    net/vhost-vdpa.c               |  34 +----------
> > > > >    3 files changed, 93 insertions(+), 70 deletions(-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > --
> > > > > 2.43.5
> > > > > 



  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-16 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-07 18:46 [PATCH v4 0/7] Move memory listener register to vhost_vdpa_init Jonah Palmer
2025-05-07 18:46 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] vdpa: check for iova tree initialized at net_client_start Jonah Palmer
2025-05-16  1:52   ` Jason Wang
2025-05-07 18:46 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] vdpa: reorder vhost_vdpa_set_backend_cap Jonah Palmer
2025-05-16  1:53   ` Jason Wang
2025-05-16  1:56   ` Jason Wang
2025-05-07 18:46 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] vdpa: set backend capabilities at vhost_vdpa_init Jonah Palmer
2025-05-16  1:57   ` Jason Wang
2025-05-07 18:46 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] vdpa: add listener_registered Jonah Palmer
2025-05-16  2:00   ` Jason Wang
2025-05-07 18:46 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] vdpa: reorder listener assignment Jonah Palmer
2025-05-16  2:01   ` Jason Wang
2025-05-07 18:46 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] vdpa: move iova_tree allocation to net_vhost_vdpa_init Jonah Palmer
2025-05-16  2:07   ` Jason Wang
2025-05-07 18:46 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] vdpa: move memory listener register to vhost_vdpa_init Jonah Palmer
2025-05-15  5:42   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-05-15 17:36     ` Si-Wei Liu
2025-05-20 13:23       ` Jonah Palmer
2025-05-14  1:42 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Move " Lei Yang
2025-05-14 15:49 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-05-15  0:17   ` Si-Wei Liu
2025-05-15  5:43     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-05-15 17:41       ` Si-Wei Liu
2025-05-16 10:45         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-05-15  8:30     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-05-16  1:49     ` Jason Wang
2025-05-20 13:27   ` Jonah Palmer
2025-05-14 23:00 ` Si-Wei Liu
2025-05-16  1:47 ` Jason Wang
2025-05-16  1:51 ` Jason Wang
2025-05-16  6:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-16 19:09     ` Si-Wei Liu
2025-05-26  9:16       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-29  7:57         ` Si-Wei Liu
2025-06-02  8:08           ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-02  8:29             ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-06 16:21               ` Jonah Palmer
2025-06-26 12:08                 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-07-02 19:31                   ` Jonah Palmer
2025-07-04 15:00                     ` Markus Armbruster
2025-07-07 13:21                       ` Jonah Palmer
2025-07-08  8:17                         ` Markus Armbruster
2025-07-09 19:57                           ` Jonah Palmer
2025-07-10  5:31                             ` Markus Armbruster

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