From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mst@redhat.com, anisinha@redhat.com,
elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com, jag.raman@oracle.com,
pbonzini@redhat.com, david@redhat.com, philmd@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] memory: reintroduce BQL-free fine-grained PIO/MMIO
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 14:02:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250627140259.3f88db17@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250624124527.656d567c@fedora>
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:45:27 +0200
Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 09:07:11 +0200
> Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > Gerd mentioned this in the relevant bz:
> > >
> > > Note: root cause for the initrd issue noted in comment 5 is seabios
> > > running into problems with ehci -> io errors -> corrupted initrd.
> > > Sometimes it doesn't boot at all, probably in case the io errors
> > > happen to hit the kernel not the initrd.
> > >
> > > This seems to be the last piece of information we have had that is closest
> > > to the root cause.
> >
> > seabios used to prefer pmtimer back then for timekeeping then because it
> > has a fixed frequency. Doing tsc calibration can easily be /way/ off in
> > a virtual machine on a loaded host.
> >
> > Meanwhile seabios got support for reading the tsc frequency via cpuid
> > (if invtsc is available) or via kvmclock. If that works seabios will
> > prefer the tsc for timekeeping.
> >
> > So, when trying to reproduce the failure for analysis you have to either
> > use an old seabios version, or turn off kvmclock + invtsc support,
> > otherwise seabios will not use the pmtimer in the first place.
>
> thanks for the hint (I've been trying to reproduce with current seabios),
> I'll try to reproduce with the old seabios.
not exactly the same config but close
qemu at offending commit 1beb99f787ba11 + exactly the same SeaBIOS
with guest GA RHEL7.3 (3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64) and making sure
seabios used pmtimer.
Running RHBZ 1322713 reproducer over several days in loop,
haven't been able to reproduce the issue.
Differences are: RHEL9 host and for guest a bit newer kernel.
the reproducer used a bit older (intermediate) one that is nowhere
to be found anymore.
As you've said in comment
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1322713#c6
it's strange that patch causes issues at all, especially with
'-smp 1' as in reproducer.
Also repeated with -smp x>1, it still worked fine.
Perhaps issue was elsewhere after all.
>
> >
> > You should have this line in the firmware log:
> >
> > Using pmtimer, ioport 0x608
> >
> > HTH & take care,
> > Gerd
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-27 12:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-20 15:14 [PATCH 0/3] Reinvent BQL-free PIO/MMIO Igor Mammedov
2025-06-20 15:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] memory: reintroduce BQL-free fine-grained PIO/MMIO Igor Mammedov
2025-06-20 16:53 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-23 12:51 ` Igor Mammedov
2025-06-23 13:36 ` Peter Xu
2025-06-24 7:07 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-06-24 10:45 ` Igor Mammedov
2025-06-27 12:02 ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2025-06-30 10:02 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2025-07-01 14:33 ` Igor Mammedov
2025-06-24 10:57 ` Igor Mammedov
2025-06-20 15:14 ` [PATCH 2/3] acpi: mark PMTIMER as unlocked Igor Mammedov
2025-06-20 15:14 ` [PATCH 3/3] mark HPET " Igor Mammedov
2025-06-20 17:01 ` Peter Maydell
2025-06-24 10:39 ` Igor Mammedov
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