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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Shameer Kolothum <skolothumtho@nvidia.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	peter.maydell@linaro.org, ddutile@redhat.com,
	berrange@redhat.com, nathanc@nvidia.com, mochs@nvidia.com,
	smostafa@google.com, wangzhou1@hisilicon.com,
	jiangkunkun@huawei.com, jonathan.cameron@huawei.com,
	zhangfei.gao@linaro.org, zhenzhong.duan@intel.com,
	yi.l.liu@intel.com, shameerkolothum@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 22/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add support for ATS
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 10:41:48 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251028134148.GH1018328@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9748e922-057b-4e7c-ad6b-b83f5591290a@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 02:21:32PM +0100, Eric Auger wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/28/25 1:16 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 10:53:10AM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> >
> >> Hmm, that sounds a legit reason, though adding the ATS support to
> >> the emulated SMMUv3 isn't seemingly a small effort...
> > What is "emulated ATS" anyhow?
> I guess it means implementing ATS translation requests and capability to
> send ATS invalidations. something like:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250628180226.133285-1-clement.mathieu--drif@eviden.com/

Why would you even want this? The cover letter didn't explain what the
point was.

qemu emulating two levels of IOTLB caching in software, with a
software page table walk?? Why??

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-28 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-29 13:36 [PATCH v4 00/27] hw/arm/virt: Add support for user-creatable accelerated SMMUv3 Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 01/27] backends/iommufd: Introduce iommufd_backend_alloc_viommu Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 15:35   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-17 12:21   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 02/27] backends/iommufd: Introduce iommufd_vdev_alloc Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 15:40   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 17:52   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-09-30  8:14     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 03/27] hw/arm/smmu-common: Factor out common helper functions and export Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 15:43   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 04/27] hw/arm/smmu-common:Make iommu ops part of SMMUState Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 15:45   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 21:53   ` Nicolin Chen via
2025-10-01 16:11   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 05/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Introduce smmuv3 accel device Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 15:53   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 22:24   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-01 16:25   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 06/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Restrict accelerated SMMUv3 to vfio-pci endpoints with iommufd Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:08   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-30  8:03     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 16:38       ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02  8:16         ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-30  0:11   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-02  7:29     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 17:32   ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02  9:30     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-17 12:47       ` Eric Auger
2025-10-17 13:15         ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-17 17:19           ` Eric Auger
2025-10-20 16:31   ` Eric Auger
2025-10-20 18:25     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-20 18:59       ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-21 15:28         ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 07/27] hw/arm/smmuv3: Implement get_viommu_cap() callback Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:13   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-01 17:36   ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02  9:38     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02 12:31       ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02  9:39     ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 08/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add set/unset_iommu_device callback Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:25   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-30  8:13     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02  6:52   ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02 11:34     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02 16:44       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-02 18:35         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-17 12:06         ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 11:56         ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 14:10           ` Eric Auger
2025-10-17 12:23   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 09/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Support nested STE install/uninstall support Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:41   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-02 10:04   ` Eric Auger
2025-10-02 12:08     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02 12:27       ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 10/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Allocate a vDEVICE object for device Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:42   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-17 13:08   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 11/27] hw/pci/pci: Introduce optional get_msi_address_space() callback Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:48   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-16 22:30   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-20 16:14     ` Eric Auger
2025-10-20 18:00       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-21 16:26         ` Eric Auger
2025-10-21 18:56           ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-22 16:25             ` Eric Auger
2025-10-22 16:56               ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-20 16:21   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 12/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Make use of " Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:51   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-02  7:33     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-16 23:28   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-20 16:43   ` Eric Auger
2025-10-21  8:15     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-21 16:16       ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 13/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add support to issue invalidation cmd to host Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 16:53   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-16 22:59   ` Nicolin Chen via
2025-10-27 10:13   ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 12:20     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 14:05       ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 14/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Get host SMMUv3 hw info and validate Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 12:56   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-02  7:37     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02  9:54       ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 10:41     ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 12:23       ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 10:46   ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 12:24     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 15/27] acpi/gpex: Fix PCI Express Slot Information function 0 returned value Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 12:59   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-02  7:39     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-21 15:32       ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 16/27] hw/pci-host/gpex: Allow to generate preserve boot config DSM #5 Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:05   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 11:14     ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 11:10   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 17/27] hw/arm/virt: Set PCI preserve_config for accel SMMUv3 Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:06   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 11:21   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 18/27] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Add IORT RMR regions to handle MSI nested binding Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:30   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 19/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Install S1 bypass hwpt on reset Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:32   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-16 23:19   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-20 14:22     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 14:26     ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 14:51       ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-29  4:26         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-27 16:34       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-27 14:22   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 20/27] hw/arm/smmuv3: Add accel property for SMMUv3 device Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-16 21:48   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-27 14:28     ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 21/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add a property to specify RIL support Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:39   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-17  8:48   ` Zhangfei Gao
2025-10-17  9:40     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-17 14:05       ` Zhangfei Gao
2025-10-27 14:44   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 22/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add support for ATS Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:43   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 16:59   ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 17:13     ` Nicolin Chen via
2025-10-27 17:38       ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 17:53         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-10-28 12:16           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-28 13:21             ` Eric Auger
2025-10-28 13:41               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-10-28 13:51                 ` Eric Auger
2025-10-28 14:03                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-28 14:44                     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-28 14:46                       ` Eric Auger
2025-10-28 14:59                     ` Eric Auger
2025-10-28 15:06                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-27 17:54         ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 18:02           ` Eric Auger
2025-10-28 14:03             ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-27 17:13     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 23/27] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Add property to specify OAS bits Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:46   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 14:57     ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 14:55   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 24/27] backends/iommufd: Retrieve PASID width from iommufd_backend_get_device_info() Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:50   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 17:00     ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 17:10   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 25/27] backends/iommufd: Add a callback helper to retrieve PASID support Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:52   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 17:28   ` Eric Auger
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 26/27] vfio: Synthesize vPASID capability to VM Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 13:58   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-02  8:03     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-02  9:58       ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-09-29 13:36 ` [PATCH v4 27/27] hw.arm/smmuv3: Add support for PASID enable Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-01 14:01   ` Jonathan Cameron via
2025-10-27 18:15   ` Eric Auger
2025-10-27 18:40     ` Shameer Kolothum
2025-10-28 10:31       ` Eric Auger
2025-10-17  6:25 ` [PATCH v4 00/27] hw/arm/virt: Add support for user-creatable accelerated SMMUv3 Zhangfei Gao
2025-10-17  9:43   ` Shameer Kolothum

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