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From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Pierrick Bouvier <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 04/18] qemu: Introduce 'qemu/legacy_binary_info.h'
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2025 10:26:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21a34cac-855b-4628-a154-e708ea85df59@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd0336c2-c2ed-477c-8f40-eaee2f110238@redhat.com>

On 6/3/25 08:26, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 05/03/2025 17.59, Pierrick Bouvier wrote:
>> On 3/5/25 07:39, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>>> Introduce an API to get information specific to a binary
>>> from the binary name (argv[0]).
>>>
>>> Initialize it from qemu_init() on system emulation.
>>>
>>
>> What we want here is more a include/qemu/target_info.h, which will 
>> allow to query the name of it, and helper for every architecture:
>>
>> target_is_aarch64()
>> target_is_ppc64()
>> ...
>>
>> Eventually, we can add combined getters like:
>> target_is_64bit()
>> ...
>>
>> Naming "legacy" something that will be present in the long term is not 
>> the best move I think.
> 
> FWIW, I agree, this should rather be target_is_64bit() or something 
> similar, like target_words_bigendian() ?

This API is to allow refactoring code for heterogeneous emulation,
without changing user-facing behavior of current qemu-system binaries,
which I now consider as 'legacy'.

Once all current restrictions removed, the new qemu-system-heterogeneous
binary is expected to run any combination of targets.

qemu-system-$target will be a call to qemu-system-heterogeneous with
a restricted subset, possibly in the form of:

  $ qemu-system-heterogeneous --target aarch64-softmmu

    ^ equivalent of today's qemu-system-aarch64

If you don't like 'qemu_legacy_binary_' prefix, I can use
'qemu_single_binary_' instead.


target_is_64bit() is misleading, for example in:

  $ qemu-system-aarch64 -M zynqmp

we create 64-bit and 32-bit ARM cores.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-06  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-05 15:39 [RFC PATCH 00/18] hw/microblaze: Quick single binary proof of concept Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 01/18] hw/xen/hvm: Fix Aarch64 typo Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 16:53   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-03-06  1:35   ` Richard Henderson
2025-03-13  8:10   ` Michael Tokarev
2025-03-13  9:40     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 02/18] hw/vfio/common: Get target page size using runtime helpers Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-06  1:37   ` Richard Henderson
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 03/18] include: Poison TARGET_PHYS_ADDR_SPACE_BITS definition Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-06  1:37   ` Richard Henderson
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 04/18] qemu: Introduce 'qemu/legacy_binary_info.h' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 16:59   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-03-06  7:26     ` Thomas Huth
2025-03-06  9:26       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2025-03-06 11:34         ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-03-06 11:52           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-06 13:45             ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-03-06 15:15               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-06 15:28                 ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-03-06 21:45                   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-03-07  0:46                     ` BALATON Zoltan
2025-03-05 19:19   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-03-06  1:56   ` Richard Henderson
2025-03-06 12:13     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-03-19 14:25     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-22  6:59       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 05/18] qemu: Introduce legacy_binary_is_64bit() helper Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 06/18] hw/mips/mipssim: Replace TARGET_MIPS64 by legacy_binary_is_64bit() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 07/18] hw/mips/malta: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 08/18] hw/i386: Inline TARGET_DEFAULT_CPU_TYPE definition Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 09/18] hw/ppc/mac: Replace TARGET_PPC64 by legacy_binary_is_64bit() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 10/18] qemu: Introduce legacy_binary_is_big_endian() helper Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-06  7:28   ` Thomas Huth
2025-03-06 14:10     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 11/18] hw/mips/jazz: Replace TARGET_BIG_ENDIAN by legacy_binary_is_big_endian Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 12/18] hw/mips/mipssim: Use legacy_binary_is_big_endian() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 13/18] hw/xtensa/sim: Replace TARGET_BIG_ENDIAN by legacy_binary_is_big_endian Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 14/18] hw/xtensa/xtfpga: Check endianness via legacy_binary_is_big_endian() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 15/18] hw/microblaze/petalogix_ml605_mmu: Use legacy_binary_is_big_endian() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 16/18] hw/microblaze/petalogix_s3adsp1800_mmu: Use legacy_binary_is_big_endian Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 17/18] meson: Allow symlinking system emulation binaries Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-03-05 15:39 ` [RFC PATCH 18/18] configs/targets: Merge qemu-system-microblaze{el} binaries Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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