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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Alberto Garcia <berto@igalia.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] Add a 'x-blockdev-reopen' QMP command
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:50:20 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <23150df9-1a9d-d1ef-c624-64eb2425a8d5@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1547739122.git.berto@igalia.com>

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On 1/17/19 9:33 AM, Alberto Garcia wrote:

> 
> Changing options
> ================
> The general idea is quite straightforward, but the devil is in the
> details. Since this command tries to mimic blockdev-add, the state of
> the block device after being reopened should generally be equivalent
> to that of a block device added with the same set of options.
> 
> There are two important things with this:
> 
>   a) Some options cannot be changed (most drivers don't allow that, in
>      fact).
>   b) If an option is missing, it should be reset to its default value
>      (rather than keeping its previous value).

Could we use QAPI alternate types where we could state that:

"option":"new" - set the option
"option":null - reset the option to its default
omit option - leave the option unchanged

basically, making each of the options an Alternate with JSON null, so
that a request to reset to the default becomes an explicit action?

> 
> Example: the default value of l2-cache-size is 1MB. If we set a
> different value (2MB) on blockdev-add but then omit the option in
> x-blockdev-reopen, then it should be reset back to 1MB. The current
> bdrv_reopen() code keeps the previous value.
> 
> Trying to change an option that doesn't allow it is already being
> handled by the code. The loop at the end of bdrv_reopen_prepare()
> checks all options that were not handled by the block driver and sees
> if any of them has been modified.
> 
> However, as I explained earlier in (b), omitting an option is supposed
> to reset it to its default value, so it's also a way of changing
> it. If the option cannot be changed then we should detect it and
> return an error. What I'm doing in this series is making every driver
> publish its list of run-time options, and which ones of them can be
> modified.
> 
> Backing files
> =============
> This command allows reconfigurations in the node graph. Currently it
> only allows changing an image's backing file, but it should be
> possible to implement similar functionalities in drivers that have
> other children, like blkverify or quorum.
> 
> Let's add an image with its backing file (hd1 <- hd0) like this:
> 
>     { "execute": "blockdev-add",
>       "arguments": {
>           "driver": "qcow2",
>           "node-name": "hd0",
>           "file": {
>               "driver": "file",
>               "filename": "hd0.qcow2",
>               "node-name": "hd0f"
>           },
>           "backing": {
>               "driver": "qcow2",
>               "node-name": "hd1",
>               "file": {
>                   "driver": "file",
>                   "filename": "hd1.qcow2",
>                   "node-name": "hd1f"
>               }
>           }
>        }
>     }
> 
> Removing the backing file can be done by simply passing the option {
> ..., "backing": null } to x-blockdev-reopen.
> 
> Replacing it is not so straightforward. If we pass something like {
> ..., "backing": { "driver": "foo" ... } } then x-blockdev-reopen will
> assume that we're trying to change the options of the existing backing
> file (and it will fail in most cases because it'll likely think that
> we're trying to change the node name, among other options).
> 
> So I decided to use a reference instead: { ..., "backing": "hd2" },
> where "hd2" is of an existing node that has been added previously.
> 
> Leaving out the "backing" option can be ambiguous on some cases (what
> should it do? keep the current backing file? open the default one
> specified in the image file?) so x-blockdev-reopen requires that this
> option is present. For convenience, if the BDS doesn't have a backing
> file then we allow leaving the option out.

Hmm - that makes my proposal of "option":null as an explicit request to
the default a bit trickier, if we are already using null for a different
meaning for backing files.

> 
> As you can see in the patch series, I wrote a relatively large amount
> of tests for many different scenarios, including some tricky ones.
> 
> Perhaps the part that I'm still not convinced about is the one about
> freezing backing links to prevent them from being removed, but the
> implementation was quite simple so I decided to give it a go. As
> you'll see in the patches I chose to use a bool instead of a counter
> because I couldn't think of a case where it would make sense to have
> two users freezing the same backing link.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Berto
> 


-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3226
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-17 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-17 15:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] Add a 'x-blockdev-reopen' QMP command Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] block: Allow freezing BdrvChild links Alberto Garcia
2019-02-12 14:47   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-02-14 14:13     ` Alberto Garcia
2019-02-14 15:52       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-02-18 13:35         ` Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] block: Freeze the backing chain for the duration of the commit job Alberto Garcia
2019-02-12 14:54   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-02-14 15:21     ` Alberto Garcia
2019-02-14 15:45       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-01-17 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] block: Freeze the backing chain for the duration of the mirror job Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] block: Freeze the backing chain for the duration of the stream job Alberto Garcia
2019-02-12 15:15   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-02-12 16:06     ` Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] block: Add 'keep_old_opts' parameter to bdrv_reopen_queue() Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] block: Handle child references in bdrv_reopen_queue() Alberto Garcia
2019-02-12 16:28   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-02-12 16:55     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2019-02-19 16:00     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] block: Allow omitting the 'backing' option in certain cases Alberto Garcia
2019-02-12 16:38   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-01-17 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] block: Allow changing the backing file on reopen Alberto Garcia
2019-02-12 17:27   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-02-21 14:46     ` Alberto Garcia
2019-02-21 14:53     ` Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] block: Add 'runtime_opts' and 'mutable_opts' fields to BlockDriver Alberto Garcia
2019-02-12 18:02   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-03-01 12:12     ` Alberto Garcia
2019-03-01 12:36       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-03-01 12:42         ` Alberto Garcia
2019-03-01 12:56           ` Kevin Wolf
2019-03-01 13:05             ` Alberto Garcia
2019-03-01 14:18               ` Kevin Wolf
2019-03-01 14:37                 ` Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] block: Add bdrv_reset_options_allowed() Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] block: Remove the AioContext parameter from bdrv_reopen_multiple() Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] block: Add an 'x-blockdev-reopen' QMP command Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] qemu-iotests: Test the x-blockdev-reopen " Alberto Garcia
2019-01-17 15:50 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2019-01-17 16:05   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] Add a 'x-blockdev-reopen' " Alberto Garcia
2019-01-22  8:15   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-01-23 15:56     ` Alberto Garcia
2019-01-31 15:11 ` Alberto Garcia

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