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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Zhuoying Cai <zycai@linux.ibm.com>,
	berrange@redhat.com, richard.henderson@linaro.org,
	david@redhat.com, jrossi@linux.ibm.com, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: walling@linux.ibm.com, jjherne@linux.ibm.com,
	pasic@linux.ibm.com, borntraeger@linux.ibm.com,
	farman@linux.ibm.com, mjrosato@linux.ibm.com, iii@linux.ibm.com,
	eblake@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com, alifm@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/28] Secure IPL Support for SCSI Scheme of virtio-blk/virtio-scsi Devices
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 12:01:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2657323b-6172-4795-a3b4-f98f26262daf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <89a7f911-4d50-4e03-a64e-b11e866f3bd0@linux.ibm.com>

On 05/11/2025 20.21, Zhuoying Cai wrote:
> On 9/26/25 8:38 AM, Thomas Huth wrote:
>> On 18/09/2025 01.21, Zhuoying Cai wrote:
>> ...
>>>    crypto/meson.build                  |   5 +-
>>>    crypto/x509-utils.c                 | 423 +++++++++++++++
>>>    docs/specs/s390x-secure-ipl.rst     | 165 ++++++
>>>    docs/system/s390x/secure-ipl.rst    | 181 +++++++
>>>    hw/s390x/cert-store.c               | 213 ++++++++
>>>    hw/s390x/cert-store.h               |  39 ++
>>>    hw/s390x/ipl.c                      |  62 +++
>>>    hw/s390x/ipl.h                      |  27 +-
>>>    hw/s390x/meson.build                |   1 +
>>>    hw/s390x/s390-virtio-ccw.c          |  52 ++
>>>    hw/s390x/sclp.c                     |   2 +
>>>    include/crypto/x509-utils.h         | 131 +++++
>>>    include/hw/s390x/ipl/diag308.h      |  34 ++
>>>    include/hw/s390x/ipl/diag320.h      |  91 ++++
>>>    include/hw/s390x/ipl/diag508.h      |  38 ++
>>>    include/hw/s390x/ipl/qipl.h         |   7 +-
>>>    include/hw/s390x/s390-virtio-ccw.h  |   3 +
>>>    include/hw/s390x/sclp.h             |   4 +-
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/Makefile           |   3 +-
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/bootmap.c          | 107 +++-
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/bootmap.h          |  11 +
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/iplb.h             |  96 +++-
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/jump2ipl.c         |   6 +-
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/main.c             | 111 +++-
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/netmain.c          |   8 +-
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/s390-ccw.h         |  19 +
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/sclp.c             |  52 ++
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/sclp.h             |   7 +
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/secure-ipl.c       | 781 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>    pc-bios/s390-ccw/secure-ipl.h       | 212 ++++++++
>>>    qapi/machine-s390x.json             |  22 +
>>>    qapi/pragma.json                    |   1 +
>>>    qemu-options.hx                     |  10 +-
>>>    target/s390x/cpu_features.c         |   7 +
>>>    target/s390x/cpu_features.h         |   1 +
>>>    target/s390x/cpu_features_def.h.inc |   5 +
>>>    target/s390x/cpu_models.c           |   7 +
>>>    target/s390x/diag.c                 | 555 +++++++++++++++++++-
>>>    target/s390x/gen-features.c         |   7 +
>>>    target/s390x/kvm/kvm.c              |  34 ++
>>>    target/s390x/s390x-internal.h       |   4 +
>>>    target/s390x/tcg/misc_helper.c      |  14 +
>>>    42 files changed, 3488 insertions(+), 70 deletions(-)
>>>    create mode 100644 docs/specs/s390x-secure-ipl.rst
>>>    create mode 100644 docs/system/s390x/secure-ipl.rst
>>>    create mode 100644 hw/s390x/cert-store.c
>>>    create mode 100644 hw/s390x/cert-store.h
>>>    create mode 100644 include/hw/s390x/ipl/diag308.h
>>>    create mode 100644 include/hw/s390x/ipl/diag320.h
>>>    create mode 100644 include/hw/s390x/ipl/diag508.h
>>>    create mode 100644 pc-bios/s390-ccw/secure-ipl.c
>>>    create mode 100644 pc-bios/s390-ccw/secure-ipl.h
>>
>>    Hi,
>>
>> looking at the file list, there does not seem to be any test in this series
>> ... could you please add some functional tests to make sure that the feature
>> is working as expected?
> 
> I’m currently working on the functional tests for secure IPL and have
> encountered a few blockers, so I wanted to reach out for some guidance.
> 
> The main challenge is determining how to provide signed components and
> signatures within the tests. In a manual secure IPL setup, we would
> generate certificates, use the sign-file script to sign the components
> (stage3 binary and kernel), and prepare zipl inside the guest.
> Additionally, the signed components would include Secure Code Loading
> Attribute Blocks (SCLABs) appended for further validation. These steps
> are difficult to reproduce in a functional test environment.
> 
> Our current idea is to create a bootable image using the SCSI scheme
> with a minimal boot map that includes fake signed components with
> hard-coded signatures (and SCLABs if feasible), similar to the approach
> used in prepare_image() in tests/qtest/cdrom-test.c. However, this
> approach is more complex than expected, and we are unsure how viable it is.
> 
> Do you have any suggestions on our current plan or other recommendations
> for how we might approach testing secure IPL? I’d appreciate your guidance.

  Hi,

would it be possible that you create a real small qcow2 image (e.g. with 
buildroot.org), make sure that it gets the right signatures, upload the 
image to your github account (or somewhere else), and then add a functional 
test to tests/functional/s390x that downloads the image and tests the boot 
process with it? I think that would likely be the best solution...?

  HTH,
   Thomas



  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-10 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-17 23:21 [PATCH v6 00/28] Secure IPL Support for SCSI Scheme of virtio-blk/virtio-scsi Devices Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 01/28] Add boot-certs to s390-ccw-virtio machine type option Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-18  6:56   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-18  8:38     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-18  8:51       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-23  1:31         ` Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-22 23:48       ` Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-29 18:29         ` Collin Walling
2025-10-08 17:49           ` Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-30  9:34   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-30  9:37     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-30  9:43       ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 02/28] crypto/x509-utils: Refactor with GNUTLS fallback Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-18 18:14   ` Farhan Ali
2025-09-30  9:38   ` Thomas Huth
2025-10-02 13:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 03/28] crypto/x509-utils: Add helper functions for certificate store Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-18 18:24   ` Farhan Ali
2025-09-30  9:43   ` Thomas Huth
2025-10-02 13:24   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 04/28] hw/s390x/ipl: Create " Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-18 19:46   ` Farhan Ali
2025-09-30 10:26   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 05/28] s390x/diag: Introduce DIAG 320 for Certificate Store Facility Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-18 20:07   ` Farhan Ali
2025-09-30 13:08   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 06/28] s390x/diag: Refactor address validation check from diag308_parm_check Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-18 20:38   ` Farhan Ali
2025-09-30 13:13   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 07/28] s390x/diag: Implement DIAG 320 subcode 1 Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-19 17:20   ` Farhan Ali
2025-09-30 13:30   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 08/28] crypto/x509-utils: Add helper functions for DIAG 320 subcode 2 Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-19 18:02   ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-07  9:34   ` Thomas Huth
2025-10-07  9:38     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-10-07  9:41       ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 09/28] s390x/diag: Implement " Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-24 21:53   ` Farhan Ali
2025-09-26 13:42     ` Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 10/28] s390x/diag: Introduce DIAG 508 for secure IPL operations Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-25 20:50   ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-07  9:47   ` Thomas Huth
2025-10-07 19:46     ` Collin Walling
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 11/28] crypto/x509-utils: Add helper functions for DIAG 508 subcode 1 Zhuoying Cai
2025-10-07  9:58   ` Thomas Huth
2025-10-07 10:10     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 12/28] s390x/diag: Implement DIAG 508 subcode 1 for signature verification Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-25 21:30   ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-07 10:27   ` Thomas Huth
2025-10-10 16:37     ` Zhuoying Cai
2025-10-10 18:08       ` Thomas Huth
2025-10-07 20:22   ` Collin Walling
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 13/28] pc-bios/s390-ccw: Introduce IPL Information Report Block (IIRB) Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-25 22:02   ` Farhan Ali
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 14/28] pc-bios/s390-ccw: Define memory for IPLB and convert IPLB to pointers Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-30  5:17   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 15/28] hw/s390x/ipl: Add IPIB flags to IPL Parameter Block Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-29 21:21   ` Farhan Ali
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 16/28] s390x: Guest support for Secure-IPL Facility Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 17/28] pc-bios/s390-ccw: Refactor zipl_run() Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-26 12:51   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 18/28] pc-bios/s390-ccw: Rework zipl_load_segment function Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-26 13:02   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 19/28] pc-bios/s390-ccw: Add signature verification for secure IPL in audit mode Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-26 13:10   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-30 18:42   ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-10 18:00     ` Zhuoying Cai
2025-10-10 19:37       ` Farhan Ali
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 20/28] s390x: Guest support for Secure-IPL Code Loading Attributes Facility (SCLAF) Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-29 12:25   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-30 13:06     ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 21/28] pc-bios/s390-ccw: Add additional security checks for secure boot Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-29 13:30   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-29 20:43     ` Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-30  5:14       ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 22/28] Add secure-boot to s390-ccw-virtio machine type option Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-29 14:05   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 23/28] hw/s390x/ipl: Set IPIB flags for secure IPL Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 24/28] pc-bios/s390-ccw: Handle true secure IPL mode Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-29 15:24   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 25/28] pc-bios/s390-ccw: Handle secure boot with multiple boot devices Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-29 18:11   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 26/28] hw/s390x/ipl: Handle secure boot without specifying a boot device Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 27/28] docs/specs: Add secure IPL documentation Zhuoying Cai
2025-10-07 11:40   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-17 23:21 ` [PATCH v6 28/28] docs/system/s390x: " Zhuoying Cai
2025-09-29 18:23   ` Thomas Huth
2025-09-26 12:38 ` [PATCH v6 00/28] Secure IPL Support for SCSI Scheme of virtio-blk/virtio-scsi Devices Thomas Huth
2025-11-05 19:21   ` Zhuoying Cai
2025-11-10 11:01     ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2025-11-11 20:17       ` Zhuoying Cai

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