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From: Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, pkrempa@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] machine: add missing doc for memory-backend option
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 19:30:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2714b6bd-00f5-6232-a602-f12ea2a4ede0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210127175645.GW3653144@redhat.com>

On 1/27/21 6:56 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 04:35:22PM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:24:26 +0100
>> Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/27/21 11:54 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:45:11AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 11:15:04AM -0500, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How does a mgmt app know which machine types need to use this
>>>>> option ? The machine type names are opaque strings, and apps
>>>>> must not attempt to parse or interpret the version number
>>>>> inside the machine type name, as they can be changed by
>>>>> distros.  IOW, saying to use it for machine types 4.0 and
>>>>> older isn't a valid usage strategy IMHO.
>> it's possible (but no necessary) to use knob with new machine types
>> (defaults for these match suggested property value).
> 
> IIUC, this means that setting the property has no impact on
> migration ABI for new machine types > 4.0....
> 
>> Limiting knob usage to 4.0 and older would allow us to drop
>> without extra efforts once 4.0 is deprecated/removed.
> 
> ...so, even if we set the property unconditionally for *all*
> machine types, then we can still remove it in future, becuase
> its removal won't affect ABI of the 5.x, 6.x machine types.

Alright, so after all you agree with proposed patch? I'm a bit confused.

At any rate, we have patches for nearly all available options (if not 
all), and I'd like to get things moving because both qemu and libvirt 
were already released meanwhile and our upstreams are broken. Not to 
mention users that started domain with libvirt 7.0.0 - they will be 
unable to migrate to libvirt 7.1.0+ (or whatever version we fix this), 
because libvirt 7.0.0 did not set the x-something-something attribute.

Michal



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-27 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-21 16:15 [PATCH v3] machine: add missing doc for memory-backend option Igor Mammedov
2021-01-27 10:40 ` Michal Privoznik
2021-01-27 10:45 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-27 10:54   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-27 14:24     ` Michal Privoznik
2021-01-27 15:09       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-27 15:35       ` Igor Mammedov
2021-01-27 17:03         ` Michal Privoznik
2021-01-27 19:31           ` Igor Mammedov
2021-01-27 17:56         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-27 18:30           ` Michal Privoznik [this message]
2021-01-27 18:41             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-27 19:19               ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-04 12:21 ` Michal Privoznik
2021-02-05 15:56   ` Igor Mammedov

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