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From: Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>
To: "Meng, Bin" <Bin.Meng@windriver.com>
Cc: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Bin Meng <bmeng.cn@gmail.com>,
	"Shi, Guohuai" <Guohuai.Shi@windriver.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] hw/9pfs: Add a 'local' file system backend driver for Windows
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 14:23:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2729855.OPLsDoUTax@silver> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR11MB4173AA315105D173BC930E20EFC89@MN2PR11MB4173.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2022 17:57:08 CEST Shi, Guohuai wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
> > Sent: 2022年5月11日 20:19
> > To: Shi, Guohuai <Guohuai.Shi@windriver.com>
> > Cc: Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>; qemu-devel@nongnu.org;
> > Meng, Bin <Bin.Meng@windriver.com>; Bin Meng <bmeng.cn@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] hw/9pfs: Add a 'local' file system backend driver
> > for Windows
[...]
> > This would be useless because of TOCTOU : a directory could be replaced by
> > a symlink between the check and the actual use of the file. O_NOFOLLOW
> > provides the atomicity needed to safely error out on symlinks. Since
> > O_NOFOLLOW only makes sense for the rightmost path element, paths from
> > the client have to be broken down into a succession of *at() syscalls,
> > one for each element.
> 
> 
> For Windows file system, it would be OK.
> Windows can not delete a opening file (this is different behavior between
> Windows file system driver and UNIX-like-inode-based file system). So when
> 9PFS try to open the final file, the following steps will keep it safe: 
> 1. open the final file by Windows NT APIs and keep the open handle.
> 2. open the final file by MinGW open().
> 3. close NT handle.
> 
> Windows file system does not allow delete/rename/move a opening file.
> Even Windows provide "FILE_SHARE_DELETE" flag in its NT API CreateFile().
> Windows allow to delete the opening file, but can not re-create same name.
> The following steps will be failure on Windows:
> 
> 1. Open a directory by CreateFile() with "FILE_SHARE_DELETE" flag and keep
> the handle open.
> 2. Remove the directory.
> 3. Re-create same name directory/file/links.
> 
> Windows will get failure on step #3.
> 
> So I think checking if there is a link in filename would be safety on Window
> host.

Neither Greg nor me are working much with Windows. As this was a fundamental 
security issue though, one way to bring this issue forward would be to backup 
your claims with test case(s). Then we would also have a safety net e.g. via 
CI cloud alerts in case behaviour on Windows changes one day.

Best regards,
Christian Schoenebeck




  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-24 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-25 14:26 [PATCH 0/9] 9pfs: Add 9pfs support for Windows host Bin Meng
2022-04-25 14:26 ` [PATCH 1/9] hw/9pfs: Compile 9p-local.c and 9p-proxy.c for Linux and macOS Bin Meng
2022-04-25 14:26 ` [PATCH 2/9] qemu/xatth.h: Update for Windows build Bin Meng
2022-04-25 14:26 ` [PATCH 3/9] hw/9pfs: Extract common stuff to 9p-local.h Bin Meng
2022-04-25 14:27 ` [PATCH 4/9] fsdev: Add missing definitions for Windows in file-op-9p.h Bin Meng
2022-05-04 17:35   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-04-25 14:27 ` [PATCH 5/9] hw/9pfs: Add a 'local' file system backend driver for Windows Bin Meng
2022-05-04 18:01   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-05-04 19:34     ` Shi, Guohuai
2022-05-05 11:43       ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-05-06  6:46         ` Shi, Guohuai
2022-05-09 14:29   ` Greg Kurz
2022-05-09 15:09     ` Shi, Guohuai
2022-05-09 16:20       ` Greg Kurz
2022-05-10  2:13         ` Shi, Guohuai
2022-05-10  2:17           ` Shi, Guohuai
2022-05-10 10:18             ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-05-10 11:54               ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-05-10 13:40                 ` Greg Kurz
2022-05-10 14:04                   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-05-10 14:34                     ` Greg Kurz
2022-05-10 15:35                       ` Shi, Guohuai
2022-05-11 11:18                         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-05-11 12:18                         ` Greg Kurz
2022-05-11 15:57                           ` Shi, Guohuai
2022-05-24 12:23                             ` Christian Schoenebeck [this message]
2022-04-25 14:27 ` [PATCH 6/9] hw/9pfs: Update 9p-synth.c for Windows build Bin Meng
2022-04-25 14:27 ` [PATCH 7/9] fsdev: Enable 'local' file system driver backend for Windows Bin Meng
2022-04-25 14:27 ` [PATCH 8/9] meson.build: Turn on virtfs for Windows host Bin Meng
2022-04-25 14:27 ` [PATCH 9/9] hw/9p: win32: Translate Windows error number to Linux value Bin Meng
2022-05-04 18:15   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-04-26  1:41 ` [PATCH 0/9] 9pfs: Add 9pfs support for Windows host Bin Meng
2022-05-03  3:42   ` Bin Meng
2022-05-04 17:16     ` Christian Schoenebeck

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