From: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@gmail.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
BALATON Zoltan <balaton@eik.bme.hu>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>, Joelle van Dyne <j@getutm.app>
Subject: Re: Display update issue on M1 Macs
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2023 11:41:19 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <28025639-840a-1e19-01d5-c817235ca423@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3bad40aa-7920-0484-ca23-b9d424ad56f6@eik.bme.hu>
On 2023/01/13 22:43, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I got reports from several users trying to run AmigaOS4 on sam460ex on
>> Apple silicon Macs that they get missing graphics that I can't
>> reproduce on x86_64. With help from the users who get the problem
>> we've narrowed it down to the following:
>>
>> It looks like that data written to the sm501's ram in
>> qemu/hw/display/sm501.c::sm501_2d_operation() is then not seen from
>> sm501_update_display() in the same file. The sm501_2d_operation()
>> function is called when the guest accesses the emulated card so it may
>> run in a different thread than sm501_update_display() which is called
>> by the ui backend but I'm not sure how QEMU calls these. Is device
>> code running in iothread and display update in main thread? The
>> problem is also independent of the display backend and was reproduced
>> with both -display cocoa and -display sdl.
>>
>> We have confirmed it's not the pixman routines that
>> sm501_2d_operation() uses as the same issue is seen also with QEMU 4.x
>> where pixman wasn't used and with all versions up to 7.2 so it's also
>> not some bisectable change in QEMU. It also happens with
>> --enable-debug so it doesn't seem to be related to optimisation either
>> and I don't get it on x86_64 but even x86_64 QEMU builds run on Apple
>> M1 with Rosetta 2 show the problem. It also only seems to affect
>> graphics written from sm501_2d_operation() which AmigaOS4 uses
>> extensively but other OSes don't and just render graphics with the
>> vcpu which work without problem also on the M1 Macs that show this
>> problem with AmigaOS4. Theoretically this could be some missing
>> syncronisation which is something ARM and PPC may need while x86
>> doesn't but I don't know if this is really the reason and if so where
>> and how to fix it). Any idea what may cause this and what could be a
>> fix to try?
>
> Any idea anyone? At least some explanation if the above is plausible or
> if there's an option to disable the iothread and run everyting in a
> single thread to verify the theory could help. I've got reports from at
> least 3 people getting this problem but I can't do much to fix it
> without some help.
>
>> (Info on how to run it is here:
>> http://zero.eik.bme.hu/~balaton/qemu/amiga/#amigaos
>> but AmigaOS4 is not freely distributable so it's a bit hard to
>> reproduce. Some Linux X servers that support sm501/sm502 may also use
>> the card's 2d engine but I don't know about any live CDs that readily
>> run on sam460ex.)
>>
>> Thank you,
>> BALATON Zoltan
Sorry, I missed the email.
Indeed the ui backend should call sm501_update_display() in the main
thread, which should be different from the thread calling
sm501_2d_operation(). However, if I understand it correctly, both of the
functions should be called with iothread lock held so there should be no
race condition in theory.
But there is an exception: memory_region_snapshot_and_clear_dirty()
releases iothread lock, and that broke raspi3b display device:
https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/CAFEAcA9odnPo2LPip295Uztri7JfoVnQbkJ=Wn+k8dQneB_ynQ@mail.gmail.com/T/
It is unexpected that gfx_update() callback releases iothread lock so it
may break things in peculiar ways.
Peter, is there any change in the situation regarding the race
introduced by memory_region_snapshot_and_clear_dirty()?
For now, to workaround the issue, I think you can create another mutex
and make the entire sm501_2d_engine_write() and sm501_update_display()
critical sections.
Regards,
Akihiko Odaki
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-14 2:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-04 23:24 Display update issue on M1 Macs BALATON Zoltan
2023-01-13 13:43 ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-01-14 2:41 ` Akihiko Odaki [this message]
2023-01-14 18:11 ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-01-19 13:10 ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-01-22 23:28 ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-01-28 4:01 ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-01-30 23:58 ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-01-31 7:37 ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-01-31 14:15 ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-02-02 10:51 ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-02-03 10:16 ` Akihiko Odaki
2023-02-03 13:45 ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-02-04 5:19 ` Akihiko Odaki
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