[Qemu-devel] winblows 2k on OSX?

[Qemu-devel] winblows 2k on OSX?

[Jason]

a friend just turned me onto the qemu and I have it installed on my powerbook 
running OSX. Ive run the sample linux and dos images, but how would I go about 
installing win2k from CD?

regards,
Jason

[Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[Ben Pfaff]

Jason <jason@monsterjam.org> writes:

> a friend just turned me onto the qemu and I have it installed on my powerbook 
> running OSX. Ive run the sample linux and dos images, but how would I go about 
> installing win2k from CD?

Create a disk image, e.g. w2k.img, then boot Windows 2k from the
CD, e.g.:
        qemu w2k.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d
I don't know what the name of the OS X CD-ROM device is; the
above assumes /dev/cdrom.

After install finishes, you should be able to boot directly from
the disk image, e.g.
        qemu w2k.img
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[Jason]

well, I was using that actually, but I just wanted to doublecheck..
I created a blank image file, and when I run that, I get

mybox:~/qemu_images root# /opt/local/bin/qemu win2k.img -cdrom /dev/disk1s0 -boot d
/dev/disk1s0: Device busy
qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/disk1s0
mybox:~/qemu_images root# 

thats after I ejected, re-inserted the win2k cdrom. Im not sure why its busy, 
but Im sure that /dev/disk1s0 is the CDROM on OSX.

regards,
Jason



On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 11:24:08AM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> Jason <jason@monsterjam.org> writes:
> 
> > a friend just turned me onto the qemu and I have it installed on my powerbook 
> > running OSX. Ive run the sample linux and dos images, but how would I go about 
> > installing win2k from CD?
> 
> Create a disk image, e.g. w2k.img, then boot Windows 2k from the
> CD, e.g.:
>         qemu w2k.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d
> I don't know what the name of the OS X CD-ROM device is; the
> above assumes /dev/cdrom.
> 
> After install finishes, you should be able to boot directly from
> the disk image, e.g.
>         qemu w2k.img
> -- 
> "Debian for hackers, Red Hat for suits, Slackware for loons."
> --CmdrTaco <URL:http://slashdot.org/articles/99/03/22/0928207.shtml>
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[Ben Pfaff]

Jason <jason@monsterjam.org> writes:

> well, I was using that actually, but I just wanted to doublecheck..
> I created a blank image file, and when I run that, I get
>
> mybox:~/qemu_images root# /opt/local/bin/qemu win2k.img -cdrom /dev/disk1s0 -boot d
> /dev/disk1s0: Device busy
> qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/disk1s0
> mybox:~/qemu_images root# 
>
> thats after I ejected, re-inserted the win2k cdrom. Im not sure why its busy, 
> but Im sure that /dev/disk1s0 is the CDROM on OSX.

I don't know how OS X works, so I don't know the correct solution
for this.  But if you can copy the CD-ROM to an ISO image file,
then it should work to specify the ISO file as the argument to
CD-ROM.  This is what I always do.
-- 
On Perl: "It's as if H.P. Lovecraft, returned from the dead and speaking by
seance to Larry Wall, designed a language both elegant and terrifying for his
Elder Things to write programs in, and forgot that the Shoggoths didn't turn
out quite so well in the long run." --Matt Olson

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[Jason]

Ok, I was thinking thats what I should do, but thanks for confirming it! ;)

Jason

On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 11:44:30AM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> Jason <jason@monsterjam.org> writes:
> 
> > well, I was using that actually, but I just wanted to doublecheck..
> > I created a blank image file, and when I run that, I get
> >
> > mybox:~/qemu_images root# /opt/local/bin/qemu win2k.img -cdrom /dev/disk1s0 -boot d
> > /dev/disk1s0: Device busy
> > qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/disk1s0
> > mybox:~/qemu_images root# 
> >
> > thats after I ejected, re-inserted the win2k cdrom. Im not sure why its busy, 
> > but Im sure that /dev/disk1s0 is the CDROM on OSX.
> 
> I don't know how OS X works, so I don't know the correct solution
> for this.  But if you can copy the CD-ROM to an ISO image file,
> then it should work to specify the ISO file as the argument to
> CD-ROM.  This is what I always do.
> -- 
> On Perl: "It's as if H.P. Lovecraft, returned from the dead and speaking by
> seance to Larry Wall, designed a language both elegant and terrifying for his
> Elder Things to write programs in, and forgot that the Shoggoths didn't turn
> out quite so well in the long run." --Matt Olson
> 

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[René Korthaus]

Am 22.07.2004 um 20:39 schrieb Jason:

> well, I was using that actually, but I just wanted to doublecheck..
> I created a blank image file, and when I run that, I get
>
> mybox:~/qemu_images root# /opt/local/bin/qemu win2k.img -cdrom 
> /dev/disk1s0 -boot d
> /dev/disk1s0: Device busy
> qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/disk1s0
> mybox:~/qemu_images root#
>
> thats after I ejected, re-inserted the win2k cdrom. Im not sure why 
> its busy,
> but Im sure that /dev/disk1s0 is the CDROM on OSX.

I tried booting qnx 6.2.1 with -cdrom /dev/disk1 on ibook (got device 
name out of system profiler) and cdrom mounted in finder. Could not 
access cd0 from qnx, but unmounting the cdrom drive by the finder did 
not eject it also!! So i guess it was used by qnx now. All of your 
variants with -cdrom /dev/disk xy resulted in "could not open hard disk 
image....", but booting with /dev/disk1 worked til "could not read boot 
disk" by bios-screen. I cannot try this with a bootable cd, because i 
justed moved and cannot find my w98 and w2k cds. But i will have a look 
and post....

>
> regards,
> Jason
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 11:24:08AM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote:
>> Jason <jason@monsterjam.org> writes:
>>
>>> a friend just turned me onto the qemu and I have it installed on my 
>>> powerbook
>>> running OSX. Ive run the sample linux and dos images, but how would 
>>> I go about
>>> installing win2k from CD?
>>
>> Create a disk image, e.g. w2k.img, then boot Windows 2k from the
>> CD, e.g.:
>>         qemu w2k.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d
>> I don't know what the name of the OS X CD-ROM device is; the
>> above assumes /dev/cdrom.
>>
>> After install finishes, you should be able to boot directly from
>> the disk image, e.g.
>>         qemu w2k.img
>> -- 
>> "Debian for hackers, Red Hat for suits, Slackware for loons."
>> --CmdrTaco <URL:http://slashdot.org/articles/99/03/22/0928207.shtml>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[André Braga]

I tried running a CD straight from the block device node and it failed
*every time*, irregardless of the permissions or the user I tried
running QEMU from. So I'd say you can't do it, as simple as that (but
I haven't tried booting straight as the root user on OS X; that might
work but I seriously doubt it). Images always work, though.

André

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:09:08 +0200, René Korthaus <wlannews@cordney.com> wrote:
> 
> Am 22.07.2004 um 20:39 schrieb Jason:
> 
> > well, I was using that actually, but I just wanted to doublecheck..
> > I created a blank image file, and when I run that, I get
> >
> > mybox:~/qemu_images root# /opt/local/bin/qemu win2k.img -cdrom
> > /dev/disk1s0 -boot d
> > /dev/disk1s0: Device busy
> > qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/disk1s0
> > mybox:~/qemu_images root#
> >
> > thats after I ejected, re-inserted the win2k cdrom. Im not sure why
> > its busy,
> > but Im sure that /dev/disk1s0 is the CDROM on OSX.
> 
> I tried booting qnx 6.2.1 with -cdrom /dev/disk1 on ibook (got device
> name out of system profiler) and cdrom mounted in finder. Could not
> access cd0 from qnx, but unmounting the cdrom drive by the finder did
> not eject it also!! So i guess it was used by qnx now. All of your
> variants with -cdrom /dev/disk xy resulted in "could not open hard disk
> image....", but booting with /dev/disk1 worked til "could not read boot
> disk" by bios-screen. I cannot try this with a bootable cd, because i
> justed moved and cannot find my w98 and w2k cds. But i will have a look
> and post....
> 
> >
> > regards,
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 11:24:08AM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> >> Jason <jason@monsterjam.org> writes:
> >>
> >>> a friend just turned me onto the qemu and I have it installed on my
> >>> powerbook
> >>> running OSX. Ive run the sample linux and dos images, but how would
> >>> I go about
> >>> installing win2k from CD?
> >>
> >> Create a disk image, e.g. w2k.img, then boot Windows 2k from the
> >> CD, e.g.:
> >>         qemu w2k.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d
> >> I don't know what the name of the OS X CD-ROM device is; the
> >> above assumes /dev/cdrom.
> >>
> >> After install finishes, you should be able to boot directly from
> >> the disk image, e.g.
> >>         qemu w2k.img



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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[René Korthaus]

Am 22.07.2004 um 21:13 schrieb André Braga:

> I tried running a CD straight from the block device node and it failed
> *every time*, irregardless of the permissions or the user I tried
> running QEMU from. So I'd say you can't do it, as simple as that (but
> I haven't tried booting straight as the root user on OS X; that might
> work but I seriously doubt it). Images always work, though.
>

Someone just said some days ago, that you have to unmount the disk 
first, so i tried but it failed. Now i tried sudo umount /dev/disk1s1s2 
and it worked. It still appears in the finder window, but clicking on 
it exits in an error (original not found...). Now starting Qemu with 
-cdrom /dev/disk1 lets the cdrom drive start running (can hear it), it 
lasts 3/4 seconds and qemu starts. boot failure 0003. But i guess thats 
because i still havent found bootable disk. Please try yourself and 
tell me.

Thanks.

> André
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:09:08 +0200, René Korthaus 
> <wlannews@cordney.com> wrote:
>>
>> Am 22.07.2004 um 20:39 schrieb Jason:
>>
>>> well, I was using that actually, but I just wanted to doublecheck..
>>> I created a blank image file, and when I run that, I get
>>>
>>> mybox:~/qemu_images root# /opt/local/bin/qemu win2k.img -cdrom
>>> /dev/disk1s0 -boot d
>>> /dev/disk1s0: Device busy
>>> qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/disk1s0
>>> mybox:~/qemu_images root#
>>>
>>> thats after I ejected, re-inserted the win2k cdrom. Im not sure why
>>> its busy,
>>> but Im sure that /dev/disk1s0 is the CDROM on OSX.
>>
>> I tried booting qnx 6.2.1 with -cdrom /dev/disk1 on ibook (got device
>> name out of system profiler) and cdrom mounted in finder. Could not
>> access cd0 from qnx, but unmounting the cdrom drive by the finder did
>> not eject it also!! So i guess it was used by qnx now. All of your
>> variants with -cdrom /dev/disk xy resulted in "could not open hard 
>> disk
>> image....", but booting with /dev/disk1 worked til "could not read 
>> boot
>> disk" by bios-screen. I cannot try this with a bootable cd, because i
>> justed moved and cannot find my w98 and w2k cds. But i will have a 
>> look
>> and post....
>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 11:24:08AM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote:
>>>> Jason <jason@monsterjam.org> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> a friend just turned me onto the qemu and I have it installed on my
>>>>> powerbook
>>>>> running OSX. Ive run the sample linux and dos images, but how would
>>>>> I go about
>>>>> installing win2k from CD?
>>>>
>>>> Create a disk image, e.g. w2k.img, then boot Windows 2k from the
>>>> CD, e.g.:
>>>>         qemu w2k.img -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d
>>>> I don't know what the name of the OS X CD-ROM device is; the
>>>> above assumes /dev/cdrom.
>>>>
>>>> After install finishes, you should be able to boot directly from
>>>> the disk image, e.g.
>>>>         qemu w2k.img
>
>
>
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[Laurent Amon]

Right now, it is not possible to use a live cdrom. You need to make an 
image.
If you directly open /dev/disk1s0, you first need to dismount it using 
disktool -u disk1 or the Disk Utility, but without ejecting it. In 
addition, a guest Windows sees it as an audio CDROM.

On 22 juil. 04, at 21:00, Jason wrote:

> Ok, I was thinking thats what I should do, but thanks for confirming 
> it! ;)
>
> Jason
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 11:44:30AM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote:
>> Jason <jason@monsterjam.org> writes:
>>
>>> well, I was using that actually, but I just wanted to doublecheck..
>>> I created a blank image file, and when I run that, I get
>>>
>>> mybox:~/qemu_images root# /opt/local/bin/qemu win2k.img -cdrom 
>>> /dev/disk1s0 -boot d
>>> /dev/disk1s0: Device busy
>>> qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/disk1s0
>>> mybox:~/qemu_images root#
>>>
>>> thats after I ejected, re-inserted the win2k cdrom. Im not sure why 
>>> its busy,
>>> but Im sure that /dev/disk1s0 is the CDROM on OSX.
>>
>> I don't know how OS X works, so I don't know the correct solution
>> for this.  But if you can copy the CD-ROM to an ISO image file,
>> then it should work to specify the ISO file as the argument to
>> CD-ROM.  This is what I always do.
>> -- 
>> On Perl: "It's as if H.P. Lovecraft, returned from the dead and 
>> speaking by
>> seance to Larry Wall, designed a language both elegant and terrifying 
>> for his
>> Elder Things to write programs in, and forgot that the Shoggoths 
>> didn't turn
>> out quite so well in the long run." --Matt Olson
>>
>
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[André Braga]

I did that too, because I created the CD image using 'sudo umount' and 'dd' :)

Exactly same symptoms And my CD is definitely bootable... So I still
stand by my position that you can't make QEMU read the block device
node for the CD-ROM yet.


On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:44:09 +0200, René Korthaus <wlannews@cordney.com> wrote:

> Someone just said some days ago, that you have to unmount the disk
> first, so i tried but it failed. Now i tried sudo umount /dev/disk1s1s2
> and it worked. It still appears in the finder window, but clicking on
> it exits in an error (original not found...). Now starting Qemu with
> -cdrom /dev/disk1 lets the cdrom drive start running (can hear it), it
> lasts 3/4 seconds and qemu starts. boot failure 0003. But i guess thats
> because i still havent found bootable disk. Please try yourself and
> tell me.
> 

--
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-Doctor Who

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[Laurent Amon]

As I said, under Win98, I have been able to mount a CD from the block 
device, but it appears as an Audio CD, so I guess the problem is in the 
device code that does not interface correctly with Darwin. I'd like to 
know if somebody has been able to do it with Darwin/x86.

Lga.

On 22 juil. 04, at 21:58, André Braga wrote:

> I did that too, because I created the CD image using 'sudo umount' and 
> 'dd' :)
>
> Exactly same symptoms And my CD is definitely bootable... So I still
> stand by my position that you can't make QEMU read the block device
> node for the CD-ROM yet.
>
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:44:09 +0200, René Korthaus 
> <wlannews@cordney.com> wrote:
>
>> Someone just said some days ago, that you have to unmount the disk
>> first, so i tried but it failed. Now i tried sudo umount 
>> /dev/disk1s1s2
>> and it worked. It still appears in the finder window, but clicking on
>> it exits in an error (original not found...). Now starting Qemu with
>> -cdrom /dev/disk1 lets the cdrom drive start running (can hear it), it
>> lasts 3/4 seconds and qemu starts. boot failure 0003. But i guess 
>> thats
>> because i still havent found bootable disk. Please try yourself and
>> tell me.
>>
>
> --
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>
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[Jason]

thanks folks, Ive got win2k installing.. but it appears to hang at the 
"installing devices" screen.. suggestions? Ive restarted the install and 
tried to rescue/repair the session, but it still seems to hang at that 
spot. Or does it just take a ridiculously long time? ;)

Jason

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[Brad Campbell]

Jason wrote:

> spot. Or does it just take a ridiculously long time? ;)

Umm.. yes :p) (Mine takes nearly 2 hours on a 2Ghz Athlon)

Brad

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: winblows 2k on OSX?

[Jason]

yes, it was VERY slow.. but I got it running..  thanks for the help 
folks.. keep up the great work!

Jason

On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 09:01:18AM +0400, Brad Campbell wrote:
> Jason wrote:
> 
> >spot. Or does it just take a ridiculously long time? ;)
> 
> Umm.. yes :p) (Mine takes nearly 2 hours on a 2Ghz Athlon)
> 
> Brad
> 
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