From: Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Christian Schoenebeck" <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>,
"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"José Ricardo Ziviani" <jose.ziviani@suse.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] modules: add support for target-specific modules.
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 09:48:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2be72be7-5c3f-e25d-fb84-cf58b573bf27@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210617053759.uibvdpu2wtq3fqwv@sirius.home.kraxel.org>
On 6/17/21 7:37 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>>> However, please correct me if I'm wrong, I understand that an accelerator as a
>>>> module will add an overhead that some user won't be willing to pay. So, give
>>>> them the option to have built-in accelerators seems a good idea.
>>>
>>> Modules add some overhead, yes, and there are surely use-cases where you
>>
>> Where do we expect the overhead to be, and of which nature?
>
> The dynamic linking needed then when loading the module adds a bit of
> overhead (compared to static linked code). Increases qemu start time
> a bit.
>
> On the other hand the start overhead can be reduced by modules,
> specifically for the case that a module depends on shared libraries and
> is *not* needed. With for example gtk being modular the gtk shared
> libraries (plus indirect dependencies like pango, cairo etc) are only
> loaded when you actually use gtk, whereas a non-modular build would load
> them no matter what.
Interesting observation.
>
> The code reorganization needed for modularization can add some overhead
> too, when using function pointers instead of direct calls for example
> (see QemuSpiceOps). That overhead doesn't go away when you do a
> non-modular build though ...
>
> take care,
> Gerd
>
Do we need to be able to unload modules that we previously loaded? Or is this not a realistic requirement?
Thanks,
Claudio
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-17 7:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-10 10:15 [PATCH 0/4] modules: add support for target-specific modules Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 10:15 ` [PATCH 1/4] modules: factor out arch check Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 10:15 ` [PATCH 2/4] modules: check arch on qom lookup Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 10:15 ` [PATCH 3/4] modules: target-specific module build infrastructure Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 10:15 ` [PATCH 4/4] modules: build virtio-9p modular Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 10:34 ` [PATCH 0/4] modules: add support for target-specific modules Claudio Fontana
2021-06-10 12:23 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 13:10 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-10 13:12 ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-11 7:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-06-11 8:29 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-11 13:03 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-11 13:17 ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-14 22:19 ` José Ricardo Ziviani
2021-06-15 5:09 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-15 15:48 ` José Ricardo Ziviani
2021-06-16 9:28 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-16 12:23 ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-17 5:37 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-17 7:48 ` Claudio Fontana [this message]
2021-06-17 9:48 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-06-17 10:07 ` Claudio Fontana
2021-06-11 17:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
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