From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] block: Add bdrv_make_empty()
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:25:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c52cdc0-ba9b-081e-b593-fd3cf49dca12@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200428141641.GH5789@linux.fritz.box>
On 4/28/20 9:16 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>
>> Yes. Although now I'm wondering if the two should remain separate or should
>> just be a single driver callback where flags can include BDRV_REQ_ZERO_WRITE
>> to distinguish whether exposing the backing file vs. reading as all zeroes
>> is intended, or if that is merging too much.
>
> I don't think the implementations for both things are too similar, so
> you might just end up having two if branches and then two separate
> implementations in the block drivers.
>
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more two callbacks still make
sense. .bdrv_make_empty may or may not need a flag, but .bdrv_make_zero
definitely does (because that's where we want a difference between
making the entire image zero no matter the delay, vs. only making it all
zero if it is is fast).
> If anything, bdrv_make_empty() is more related to discard than
> write_zeroes. But we use the discard code for it in qcow2 only as a
> fallback because in the most common cases, making an image completely
> empty means effectively just creating an entirely new L1 and refcount
> table, which is much faster than individually discarding all clusters.
>
> For bdrv_make_zero() I don't see an opportunity for such optimisations,
> so I don't really see a reason to have a separate callback. Unless you
> do know one?
The optimization I have in mind is adding a qcow2 autoclear bit to track
when an image is known to read as all zero - at which point
.bdrv_make_zero instantly returns success. For raw files, a possible
optimization is to truncate to size 0 and then back to the full size,
when it is known that truncation forces read-as-zero. For NBD, I'm
still playing with whether adding new 64-bit transactions for a bulk
zero will be useful, and even if not, maybe special-casing
NBD_CMD_WRITE_ZEROES with a size of 0 to do a bulk zero, if both server
and client negotiated that particular meaning.
--
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc. +1-919-301-3226
Virtualization: qemu.org | libvirt.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-28 14:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-28 13:26 [PATCH 0/4] block: Do not call BlockDriver.bdrv_make_empty() directly Max Reitz
2020-04-28 13:26 ` [PATCH 1/4] block: Add bdrv_make_empty() Max Reitz
2020-04-28 13:53 ` Eric Blake
2020-04-28 14:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-04-28 14:07 ` Eric Blake
2020-04-28 14:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-04-28 14:25 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2020-04-28 14:21 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-04-29 7:39 ` Max Reitz
2020-04-28 13:26 ` [PATCH 2/4] block: Use bdrv_make_empty() where possible Max Reitz
2020-04-28 13:54 ` Eric Blake
2020-04-28 15:03 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-04-28 13:26 ` [PATCH 3/4] block: Add blk_make_empty() Max Reitz
2020-04-28 13:55 ` Eric Blake
2020-04-28 14:28 ` Eric Blake
2020-04-28 14:47 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-04-29 7:39 ` Max Reitz
2020-04-28 13:26 ` [PATCH 4/4] block: Use blk_make_empty() after commits Max Reitz
2020-04-28 14:07 ` Eric Blake
2020-04-29 7:58 ` Max Reitz
2020-04-28 15:03 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-04-29 8:01 ` Max Reitz
2020-04-28 13:38 ` [PATCH 0/4] block: Do not call BlockDriver.bdrv_make_empty() directly no-reply
2020-04-28 13:43 ` no-reply
2020-04-28 13:57 ` Eric Blake
2020-04-28 13:48 ` no-reply
2020-04-28 13:49 ` Eric Blake
2020-04-28 14:05 ` Eric Blake
2020-04-28 14:53 ` no-reply
2020-04-28 14:57 ` no-reply
2020-04-28 15:02 ` no-reply
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