From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Vincenzo Maffione <v.maffione@gmail.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Giuseppe Lettieri <g.lettieri@iet.unipi.it>,
Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@iet.unipi.it>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping?
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 15:36:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e660c06-8efe-5158-2ba6-ecd9563e879f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12dbfcd1-8d9d-f564-fb90-767943eca874@redhat.com>
On 8/8/19 7:38 AM, Jason Wang wrote:
>
> On 2019/8/8 下午12:48, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Please excuse the attention-grabbing subject.
>>
>> Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 8/7/19 10:16 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Can you tell me offhand what I have to install so configure enables
>>>> CONFIG_NETMAP?
>>> The steps are listed in tests/docker/dockerfiles/debian-amd64.docker,
>>> but you can get to this point running:
>>>
>>> $ make docker-image-debian-amd64 V=1 DEBUG=1
>>>
>>> This will build the docker image with netmap (so you don't have to mess
>>> with your workstation setup), then build QEMU within the image.
>> So, to make use of QEMU's netmap backend (CONFIG_NETMAP), you have to
>> build and install netmap software from sources. Which pretty much
>> ensures nobody uses it. It was added in commit 58952137b0b (Nov 2013).
>> The commit message points to <http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/netmap/>,
>> which gives me "connection timed out" right now.
>>
>> On the other hand, it's covered in MAINTAINERS, and has seen
>> non-janitorial activity as late as Dec 2018 (commit c693fc748a).
>>
>> Luigi, Giuseppe, Vincenzo, what's the status of the netmap project?
>>
>> Why is the QEMU netmap backend worth keeping?
>>
>> Who is using the netmap backend?
>
>
> Netmap was supported by freebsd:
> https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=netmap&sektion=4. So I guess
> there should be real users.
>
>
>>
>> How do they obtain a netmap-enabled QEMU? Compile it from sources
>> themselves?
>
>
> Yes.
Hmm at least on the FreeBSD setup by vmtest (12.0-RELEASE r341666) we
don't need to build it from source:
$ make vm-build-freebsd V=1 DEBUG=1
[...]
netmap support yes
[...]
$ fgrep -r CONFIG_NETMAP .
./config-host.mak:CONFIG_NETMAP=y
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2019-08-06 15:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/29] Tame a few "touch this, recompile the world" headers Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/29] include: Make headers more self-contained Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:03 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 19:45 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 21:28 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-08 4:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/29] Include generated QAPI headers less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:50 ` Eric Blake
2019-08-07 9:53 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/29] qapi: Split error.json off common.json Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 9:57 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/29] memory: Fix type of IOMMUMemoryRegionClass member @parent_class Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:11 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 10:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/29] queue: Drop superfluous #include qemu/atomic.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:21 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 15:40 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/29] trace: Eliminate use of TARGET_FMT_plx Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 9:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/29] trace: Do not include qom/cpu.h into generated trace.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 9:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-07 10:30 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/29] Include sysemu/reset.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:38 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/29] Include migration/qemu-file-types.h " Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 12:25 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 17:30 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 19:46 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/29] ide: Include hw/ide/internal a bit less outside hw/ide/ Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:40 ` John Snow
2019-08-07 12:29 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 14:56 ` John Snow
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/29] typedefs: Separate incomplete types and function types Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 12:31 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/29] Include hw/irq.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 13:04 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 21:06 ` Eric Blake
2019-08-08 4:27 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 5:09 ` Richard Henderson
2019-08-08 11:48 ` Eric Blake
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/29] Clean up inclusion of exec/cpu-common.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:20 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/29] migration: Move the VMStateDescription typedef to typedefs.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:22 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 17:13 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/29] Include migration/vmstate.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 11:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 16/29] Include exec/memory.h slightly less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:50 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 12:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 12:36 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 17/29] Include qom/object.h " Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 17:11 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 18/29] Include hw/hw.h exactly where needed Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 19/29] Include qemu/queue.h slightly less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:57 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 20/29] Include qemu/main-loop.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 13:18 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 13:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 21/29] Include hw/qdev-properties.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 22/29] Include hw/boards.h a bit less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:37 ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07 17:26 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 17:57 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-08-07 18:05 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 18:19 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-08-08 11:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 23/29] numa: Don't include hw/boards.h into sysemu/numa.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 24/29] Include sysemu/hostmem.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 25/29] numa: Move remaining NUMA declarations from sysemu.h to numa.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 26/29] Clean up inclusion of sysemu/sysemu.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:36 ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07 15:47 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:10 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 14:21 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:38 ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07 9:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-07 13:24 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 13:51 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 17:31 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 20:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 21:05 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? (was: [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less) Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 5:38 ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? Jason Wang
2019-08-08 13:36 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2019-08-08 17:27 ` Vincenzo Maffione
2019-08-08 7:27 ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-08-08 11:52 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-12 12:32 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-12 12:34 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-09-02 20:50 ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-09-13 13:04 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-09-16 14:45 ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-09-23 11:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-04 13:02 ` [PATCH] netmap: support git-submodule build otption Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-10-04 13:08 ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-07 10:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 11:58 ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-07 12:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 12:39 ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-08 9:17 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-10-08 11:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 15:37 ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-07 17:53 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 15:44 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 8:12 ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? (was: [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less) Stefano Garzarella
2019-10-07 18:21 ` Is network backend vde worth keeping? (was: Is network backend netmap worth keeping?) Markus Armbruster
2019-10-09 9:13 ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-11 6:55 ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-10 17:07 ` Julia Suvorova
2019-10-10 17:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 28/29] sysemu: Move the VMChangeStateEntry typedef to qemu/typedefs.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:26 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 29/29] sysemu: Split sysemu/runstate.h off sysemu/sysemu.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 4:40 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-06 16:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/29] Tame a few "touch this, recompile the world" headers no-reply
2019-08-06 16:56 ` no-reply
2019-08-07 16:32 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 13:21 ` Markus Armbruster
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