qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Vincenzo Maffione <v.maffione@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Giuseppe Lettieri <g.lettieri@iet.unipi.it>,
	Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@iet.unipi.it>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping?
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 15:36:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e660c06-8efe-5158-2ba6-ecd9563e879f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12dbfcd1-8d9d-f564-fb90-767943eca874@redhat.com>

On 8/8/19 7:38 AM, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2019/8/8 下午12:48, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Please excuse the attention-grabbing subject.
>>
>> Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 8/7/19 10:16 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Can you tell me offhand what I have to install so configure enables
>>>> CONFIG_NETMAP?
>>> The steps are listed in tests/docker/dockerfiles/debian-amd64.docker,
>>> but you can get to this point running:
>>>
>>>    $ make docker-image-debian-amd64 V=1 DEBUG=1
>>>
>>> This will build the docker image with netmap (so you don't have to mess
>>> with your workstation setup), then build QEMU within the image.
>> So, to make use of QEMU's netmap backend (CONFIG_NETMAP), you have to
>> build and install netmap software from sources.  Which pretty much
>> ensures nobody uses it.  It was added in commit 58952137b0b (Nov 2013).
>> The commit message points to <http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/netmap/>,
>> which gives me "connection timed out" right now.
>>
>> On the other hand, it's covered in MAINTAINERS, and has seen
>> non-janitorial activity as late as Dec 2018 (commit c693fc748a).
>>
>> Luigi, Giuseppe, Vincenzo, what's the status of the netmap project?
>>
>> Why is the QEMU netmap backend worth keeping?
>>
>> Who is using the netmap backend?
> 
> 
> Netmap was supported by freebsd:
> https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=netmap&sektion=4. So I guess
> there should be real users.
> 
> 
>>
>> How do they obtain a netmap-enabled QEMU?  Compile it from sources
>> themselves?
> 
> 
> Yes.

Hmm at least on the FreeBSD setup by vmtest (12.0-RELEASE r341666) we
don't need to build it from source:

$ make vm-build-freebsd V=1 DEBUG=1
[...]
netmap support    yes
[...]

$ fgrep -r CONFIG_NETMAP .
./config-host.mak:CONFIG_NETMAP=y


  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-08 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-06 15:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/29] Tame a few "touch this, recompile the world" headers Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/29] include: Make headers more self-contained Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:03   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 19:45     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 21:28       ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-08  4:21         ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/29] Include generated QAPI headers less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:50   ` Eric Blake
2019-08-07  9:53   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/29] qapi: Split error.json off common.json Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  9:57   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/29] memory: Fix type of IOMMUMemoryRegionClass member @parent_class Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:11   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 10:16     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/29] queue: Drop superfluous #include qemu/atomic.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:21   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 15:40   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/29] trace: Eliminate use of TARGET_FMT_plx Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  9:29   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/29] trace: Do not include qom/cpu.h into generated trace.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  9:32   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-07 10:30     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/29] Include sysemu/reset.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:38   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/29] Include migration/qemu-file-types.h " Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 12:25   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 17:30     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 19:46       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/29] ide: Include hw/ide/internal a bit less outside hw/ide/ Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:40   ` John Snow
2019-08-07 12:29     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 14:56       ` John Snow
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/29] typedefs: Separate incomplete types and function types Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 12:31   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/29] Include hw/irq.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 13:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 21:06     ` Eric Blake
2019-08-08  4:27       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08  5:09         ` Richard Henderson
2019-08-08 11:48         ` Eric Blake
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/29] Clean up inclusion of exec/cpu-common.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:20   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/29] migration: Move the VMStateDescription typedef to typedefs.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:22   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 17:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/29] Include migration/vmstate.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:44   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 11:36     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 16/29] Include exec/memory.h slightly less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:50   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 12:16     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 12:36       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 17/29] Include qom/object.h " Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 17:11   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 18/29] Include hw/hw.h exactly where needed Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 19/29] Include qemu/queue.h slightly less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:57   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 20/29] Include qemu/main-loop.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 13:18   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 13:49     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 21/29] Include hw/qdev-properties.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 22/29] Include hw/boards.h a bit less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:37   ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07 17:26   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 17:57     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-08-07 18:05       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 18:19         ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-08-08 11:57           ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 23/29] numa: Don't include hw/boards.h into sysemu/numa.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 24/29] Include sysemu/hostmem.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 25/29] numa: Move remaining NUMA declarations from sysemu.h to numa.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 26/29] Clean up inclusion of sysemu/sysemu.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:36   ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07 15:47   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:10     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 14:21       ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:38   ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07  9:28   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-07 13:24   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 13:51     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 17:31   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 20:16     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 21:05       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08  4:48         ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? (was: [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less) Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08  5:38           ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? Jason Wang
2019-08-08 13:36             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2019-08-08 17:27               ` Vincenzo Maffione
2019-08-08  7:27           ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-08-08 11:52             ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-12 12:32               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-12 12:34                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-09-02 20:50                 ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-09-13 13:04                   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-09-16 14:45                     ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-09-23 11:21                       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-04 13:02                         ` [PATCH] netmap: support git-submodule build otption Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-10-04 13:08                           ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-07 10:49                             ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 11:58                               ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-07 12:35                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 12:39                                   ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-08  9:17                                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-10-08 11:57                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 15:37                                   ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-07 17:53                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 15:44                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08  8:12           ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? (was: [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less) Stefano Garzarella
2019-10-07 18:21           ` Is network backend vde worth keeping? (was: Is network backend netmap worth keeping?) Markus Armbruster
2019-10-09  9:13             ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-11  6:55               ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-10 17:07             ` Julia Suvorova
2019-10-10 17:39             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 28/29] sysemu: Move the VMChangeStateEntry typedef to qemu/typedefs.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:26   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:19     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 29/29] sysemu: Split sysemu/runstate.h off sysemu/sysemu.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  4:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:15     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-06 16:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/29] Tame a few "touch this, recompile the world" headers no-reply
2019-08-06 16:56 ` no-reply
2019-08-07 16:32 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:21   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 13:21   ` Markus Armbruster

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=2e660c06-8efe-5158-2ba6-ecd9563e879f@redhat.com \
    --to=philmd@redhat.com \
    --cc=armbru@redhat.com \
    --cc=g.lettieri@iet.unipi.it \
    --cc=jasowang@redhat.com \
    --cc=peter.maydell@linaro.org \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=rizzo@iet.unipi.it \
    --cc=stefanha@redhat.com \
    --cc=v.maffione@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).