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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu devel list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-stable@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] hw/isa/lpc_ich9: inject SMI on all VCPUs if APM_STS == 'Q'
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 19:50:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <30d496e5-3b3a-c321-c1ff-2c1f7fcec44e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <771517296.13175228.1479319440822.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com>

On 11/16/16 19:04, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> I guess that's what the next paragraph is about:
>>
>>> - we could have another magic 0xB2 value, which is implemented directly
>>> in QEMU and sets 0xB3 to a magic value.  Then OVMF can invoke it
>>> after SMBASE relocation and SMM IPL (so as not to crash on old QEMUs)
>>> to detect the new feature.  It can fail to start if using traditional
>>> AP and the new feature is not there.
>>
>> Please explain in more detail. If I write to 0xB2 (by invoking the
>> Trigger() method or somehow else), then on old QEMU's that will raise a
>> sync / unicast SMI. The SMI handler in edk2 will run, but no request
>> parameters will have been set up by OVMF, so the SMI handler will do...
>> no clue what.
> 
> It should hopefully do nothing.  A spurious SMI (such as the one caused
> by the write to 0xB2) should not crash OVMF.
> 
> SMBASE relocation uses IPIs, so my hope was to use the
> SmmCpuFeaturesSmmRelocationComplete hook.

>From a cursory look, SmmCpuFeaturesSmmRelocationComplete() seems to be
called early enough from PiSmmCpuDxeSmm that we might be able to call
PcdSet() from it, for updating PcdCpuSmmApSyncTimeout and
PcdCpuSmmSyncMode. I perceive it a bit too close to the edge :)

>> My preference is fw_cfg ATM. It provides a prove, flexible and
>> extensible interface (it's easy to add new files for future features).
>> If we expect more knobs in the area, I can modify my proposal to use
>> "etc/smi/broadcast", so we can add "etc/smi/XXXX" later.
> 
> Did you know there are 16 entries only for fw_cfg files? :)

Yes, I've known that, but it can be changed by redefining
FW_CFG_FILE_SLOTS, can't it? The key type for fw_cfg is uint16_t, so we
should have some reserves.

> And we're
> using already 20 in the worst case:
> 
>     genroms/linuxboot.bin
>     genroms/kvmvapic.bin
>     NVDIMM_DSM_MEM_FILE
>     "etc/smbios/smbios-tables"
>     "etc/smbios/smbios-anchor"
>     "etc/acpi/tables"
>     "etc/table-loader"
>     ACPI_BUILD_TPMLOG_FILE
>     ACPI_BUILD_RSDP_FILE
>     "etc/e820"
>     "etc/msr_feature_control"
>     "etc/reserved-memory-end"
>     "etc/pvpanic-port"
>     "etc/boot-menu-wait"
>     "bootsplash.jpg"
>     "etc/boot-fail-wait"
>     "etc/igd-opregion"
>     "etc/igd-bdsm-size"
>     "etc/extra-pci-roots"
>     "bootorder"
> 
> Therefore, so close to the release I'm a bit worried about doing
> changes to fw_cfg or adding more fw_cfg files.  Though we just got
> rid of one file for the number of CPUs, so I guess we might not care.

I agree with your caution about this. I'm also perfectly fine if this
update misses 2.8. :)

> 
>> Do you have any specific arguments against fw_cfg? As I suggested in my
>> previous email, with fw_cfg I can implement the change in OVMF such that
>> the default behavior wouldn't change -- the default delivery would
>> remain relaxed, and the broadcast wouldn't be requested, unless the
>> fw_cfg file told OVMF otherwise.
>>
>>> By the way, in case OVMF needs to use SmmSwDispatch in the future, I
>>> would make QEMU use broadcast behavior for all values in the 0x10-0xff
>>> range, or something like that.
>>
>> Are we talking control/command (0xB2) or scratch/data (0xB3) register
>> values? My patches currently use the scratch/data register to provide
>> the hint to QEMU; that register is less likely to interfere with
>> anything the SMM core in edk2 does.
> 
> Sorry I confused the two registers.  0xb3 is more or less unused as far
> as I can see indeed.

Thanks
Laszlo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-16 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-15  1:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] hw/isa/lpc_ich9: inject SMI on all VCPUs if APM_STS == 'Q' Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-15 13:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-15 15:39   ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-15 15:45     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-15 16:40       ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-16 12:47         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-16 13:18           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-16 14:05             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-16 18:03               ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-16 20:27                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-17 13:16                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-17 17:46                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-17 18:45                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-16 17:56             ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-16 17:37           ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-16 18:04             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-16 18:50               ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2016-11-16 20:38               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-17  9:26                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-16 20:32             ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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