From: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
Dong Jia Shi <bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, borntraeger@de.ibm.com, agraf@suse.de,
rth@twiddle.net, pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] s390x/css: generate channel path initialized CRW for channel path hotplug
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:37:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <316dd24e-cc45-8469-dd23-491c8b15480e@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170727135910.27d9e42e@gondolin>
On 07/27/2017 01:59 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 03:54:18 +0200
> Dong Jia Shi <bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> When a channel path is hot plugged into a CSS, we should generate
>> a channel path initialized CRW (channel report word). The current
>> code does not do that, instead it puts a stub function with a TODO
>> reminder there.
>>
>> This implements the css_generate_chp_crws() function by:
>> 1. refactor the existing code.
>> 2. add an @add parameter to provide future callers with the
>> capability of generating channel path permanent error with
>> facility not initialized CRW.
>> 3. add a @hotplugged parameter, so to opt out generating initialized
>> CRWs for predefined channel paths.
>
> I'm not 100% sure whether the logic is correct here. Let me elaborate:
>
> The current code flow when hotplugging a device is:
> - Generate the schib.
> - Check if any of the chpids refers to a not yet existing channel path;
> generate it if that is the case.
> - Post a crw for the subchannel.
>
> The second step is where the current code seems to be not quite correct
> already. It is fine for coldplugged devices, but I really think we need
> to make sure that all referenced channel paths are in place before we
> hotplug a new device. It was not really relevant when we just had one
> very virtual channel path, and 3270 is experimental so it is not a
> problem in practice.
What do you mean by not quite correct? Are we somewhere in conflict with
the AR (if yes could you give me a pointer)? Or is it a modeling concern?
Or is it about the user interface design? Or any combination of these?
>
> This, of course, implies we need deeper changes. We need to create the
> channel paths before the subchannel is created and refuse hotplug of a
> device if not all channel paths it needs are defined. This means we
> need some things before we can claim real channel path support:
> - Have a way to specify channel paths on the command line resp. when
> hotplugging. This implies they need to be real objects.
> - Have a way to specify which channel paths belong to a subchannel in
> the same context. Keep existing device types working with the current
> method.
> - Give channel paths states: Defined, configured. The right time for a
> CRW is the transition between those states.
> - Only queue a 'device come' CRW for a subchannel if at least one of
> its channel paths is in the configured state. Detach or make not
> operational a subchannel if all of its paths are deconfigured.
>
AFAIU in your opinion our model is to simple and needs to get more
complex. What benefits do we expect from the added complexity? I mean
our current model works (and I'm not sure what limitations do we
want to get rid of, or even what are the relevant limitations we have.)
> Something along those lines also matches better what I've seen on z/VM
> or LPAR. I realize that it's not easy :(
>
> tl;dr: I don't think we want chp crws until after we have a good chp
> model.
I fully agree with this point.
Regards,
Halil
>
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Dong Jia Shi <bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>> ---
>> hw/s390x/3270-ccw.c | 3 ++-
>> hw/s390x/css.c | 55 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------
>> hw/s390x/s390-ccw.c | 2 +-
>> hw/s390x/virtio-ccw.c | 3 ++-
>> include/hw/s390x/css.h | 8 ++++---
>> include/hw/s390x/ioinst.h | 1 +
>> 6 files changed, 53 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-27 13:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-27 1:54 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Channel Path realted CRW generation Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-27 1:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] s390x/css: use macro for event-information pending error recover code Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-27 10:10 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-28 7:12 ` Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-28 7:26 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-27 1:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] s390x/css: generate solicited crw for rchp completion signaling Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-27 11:22 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-28 7:25 ` Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-28 7:29 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-27 1:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] s390x/css: generate channel path initialized CRW for channel path hotplug Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-27 11:59 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-27 13:37 ` Halil Pasic [this message]
2017-07-27 14:14 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-27 16:15 ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-28 10:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-28 12:32 ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-28 12:58 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-28 14:29 ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-31 8:26 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-31 1:46 ` Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-31 8:41 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-08-01 1:23 ` Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-31 3:51 ` Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-31 11:13 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-31 12:30 ` Halil Pasic
2017-08-01 2:02 ` Dong Jia Shi
2017-08-01 2:29 ` Dong Jia Shi
2017-08-01 7:24 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-08-01 7:57 ` Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-27 9:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Channel Path realted CRW generation Cornelia Huck
2017-07-28 9:21 ` Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-28 11:53 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-28 15:50 ` Dong Jia Shi
2017-07-31 8:54 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-08-01 2:12 ` Dong Jia Shi
2017-08-01 7:19 ` Cornelia Huck
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=316dd24e-cc45-8469-dd23-491c8b15480e@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--to=pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=agraf@suse.de \
--cc=bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=borntraeger@de.ibm.com \
--cc=cohuck@redhat.com \
--cc=pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
--cc=rth@twiddle.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).