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From: Nina Schoetterl-Glausch <nsg@linux.ibm.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	borntraeger@de.ibm.com, pasic@linux.ibm.com,
	richard.henderson@linaro.org, david@redhat.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	cohuck@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, ehabkost@redhat.com,
	marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com, eblake@redhat.com,
	seiden@linux.ibm.com, nrb@linux.ibm.com, frankja@linux.ibm.com,
	berrange@redhat.com, clg@kaod.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 10/11] qapi/s390x/cpu topology: CPU_POLARITY_CHANGE qapi event
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2023 13:28:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32389178edcf67ac08904906df9a12aa64f24928.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y1p8q7v6.fsf@pond.sub.org>

On Wed, 2023-02-08 at 20:23 +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Nina Schoetterl-Glausch <nsg@linux.ibm.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, 2023-02-01 at 14:20 +0100, Pierre Morel wrote:
> > > When the guest asks to change the polarity this change
> > > is forwarded to the admin using QAPI.
> > > The admin is supposed to take according decisions concerning
> > > CPU provisioning.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>
> > > ---
> > >  qapi/machine-target.json | 30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  hw/s390x/cpu-topology.c  |  2 ++
> > >  2 files changed, 32 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/qapi/machine-target.json b/qapi/machine-target.json
> > > index 58df0f5061..5883c3b020 100644
> > > --- a/qapi/machine-target.json
> > > +++ b/qapi/machine-target.json
> > > @@ -371,3 +371,33 @@
> > >    },
> > >    'if': { 'all': [ 'TARGET_S390X', 'CONFIG_KVM' ] }
> > >  }
> > > +
> > > +##
> > > +# @CPU_POLARITY_CHANGE:
> > > +#
> > > +# Emitted when the guest asks to change the polarity.
> > > +#
> > > +# @polarity: polarity specified by the guest
> > > +#
> > > +# The guest can tell the host (via the PTF instruction) whether the
> > > +# CPUs should be provisioned using horizontal or vertical polarity.
> > > +#
> > > +# On horizontal polarity the host is expected to provision all vCPUs
> > > +# equally.
> > > +# On vertical polarity the host can provision each vCPU differently.
> > > +# The guest will get information on the details of the provisioning
> > > +# the next time it uses the STSI(15) instruction.
> > > +#
> > > +# Since: 8.0
> > > +#
> > > +# Example:
> > > +#
> > > +# <- { "event": "CPU_POLARITY_CHANGE",
> > > +#      "data": { "polarity": 0 },
> > > +#      "timestamp": { "seconds": 1401385907, "microseconds": 422329 } }
> > > +#
> > > +##
> > > +{ 'event': 'CPU_POLARITY_CHANGE',
> > > +  'data': { 'polarity': 'int' },
> > > +  'if': { 'all': [ 'TARGET_S390X', 'CONFIG_KVM'] }
> > 
> > I wonder if you should depend on CONFIG_KVM or not. If tcg gets topology
> > support it will use the same event and right now it would just never be emitted.
> > On the other hand it's more conservative this way.
> 
> TCG vs. KVM should be as transparent as we can make it.
> 
> If only KVM can get into the state where the event is emitted, say
> because the state is only possible with features only KVM supports, then
> making the event conditional on KVM makes sense.  Of course, when
> another accelerator acquires these features, we need to emit the event
> there as well, which will involve adjusting the condition.

That's the case here, KVM supports the feature, TCG doesn't, although there is no
reason it couldn't in the future.

> 
> > I also wonder if you should add 'feature' : [ 'unstable' ].
> > On the upside, it would mark the event as unstable, but I don't know what the
> > consequences are exactly.
> 
> docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.rst:
> 
>     Special features
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
>     Feature "deprecated" marks a command, event, enum value, or struct
>     member as deprecated.  It is not supported elsewhere so far.
>     Interfaces so marked may be withdrawn in future releases in accordance
>     with QEMU's deprecation policy.
> 
>     Feature "unstable" marks a command, event, enum value, or struct
>     member as unstable.  It is not supported elsewhere so far.  Interfaces
>     so marked may be withdrawn or changed incompatibly in future releases.

Yeah, I saw that, but wasn't aware of -compat, thanks.

> 
> See also -compat parameters unstable-input, unstable-output, both
> intended for "testing the future".
> 
> > Also I guess one can remove qemu events without breaking backwards compatibility,
> > since they just won't be emitted? Unless I guess you specify that a event must
> > occur under certain situations and the client waits on it?
> 
> Events are part of the interface just like command returns are.  Not
> emitting an event in a situation where it was emitted before can easily
> break things.  Only when the situation is no longer possible, the event
> can be removed safely.

@Pierre, seems it would be a good idea to mark all changes to qmp unstable, not just
set-cpu-topology, can just remove it later after all.

> 
> Questions?
> 
> [...]
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-09 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-01 13:20 [PATCH v15 00/11] s390x: CPU Topology Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 01/11] s390x/cpu topology: adding s390 specificities to CPU topology Pierre Morel
2023-02-02 10:44   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-02 13:15     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-02 16:05   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-03  9:39     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-03 11:21       ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-08 17:50   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-10 14:19     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 02/11] s390x/cpu topology: add topology entries on CPU hotplug Pierre Morel
2023-02-02 16:42   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-03  9:21     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-03 13:22       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-03 14:40         ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-03 15:38           ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 03/11] target/s390x/cpu topology: handle STSI(15) and build the SYSIB Pierre Morel
2023-02-03 17:36   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-06 10:06     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 10:32       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-06 11:24   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 12:57     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-09 16:39   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-10 14:16     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 04/11] s390x/sclp: reporting the maximum nested topology entries Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 10:13   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 10:19     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 05/11] s390x/cpu topology: resetting the Topology-Change-Report Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 11:05   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 12:50     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 17:52   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-07  9:24     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-07 10:50       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-07 12:19         ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-07 13:37           ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-07 14:08             ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 06/11] s390x/cpu topology: interception of PTF instruction Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 11:38   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 13:02     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 18:34   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-07  9:59     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-07 11:27       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-07 13:03         ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 07/11] target/s390x/cpu topology: activating CPU topology Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 11:57   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 13:19     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 08/11] qapi/s390x/cpu topology: x-set-cpu-topology monitor command Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 12:21   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 14:03     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-07 14:59   ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-08 18:40   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-09 13:14     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 09/11] machine: adding s390 topology to query-cpu-fast Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 12:38   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 14:12     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 12:41   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 12:49     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-06 13:09       ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 14:50         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-07 10:10           ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 14:16       ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-07 18:26   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-08  9:11     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 10/11] qapi/s390x/cpu topology: CPU_POLARITY_CHANGE qapi event Pierre Morel
2023-02-08 17:35   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-09 10:04     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-09 11:01       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-09 12:12       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-09 12:15         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
     [not found]     ` <87y1p8q7v6.fsf@pond.sub.org>
2023-02-09 12:28       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch [this message]
2023-02-09 13:00         ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-09 14:50           ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 11/11] docs/s390x/cpu topology: document s390x cpu topology Pierre Morel
2023-02-08 16:22   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-09 17:14 ` [PATCH v15 00/11] s390x: CPU Topology Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-10 13:23   ` Pierre Morel

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