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From: Paul Moore <pmoore@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Eduardo Otubo <otubo@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv2 2/2] Adding basic calls to libseccomp in vl.c
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:52:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3272318.IIWAhra0IR@sifl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120618083103.GC28026@redhat.com>

On Monday, June 18, 2012 09:31:03 AM Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 05:02:19PM -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> > On Friday, June 15, 2012 07:06:10 PM Blue Swirl wrote:
> > > I think allowing execve() would render seccomp pretty much useless.
> > 
> > Not necessarily.
> > 
> > I'll agree that it does seem a bit odd to allow execve(), but there is
> > still value in enabling seccomp to disable potentially buggy/exploitable
> > syscalls. Let's not forget that we have over 300 syscalls on x86_64, not
> > including the 32 bit versions, and even if we add all of the new syscalls
> > suggested in this thread we are still talking about a small subset of
> > syscalls.  As far as security goes, the old adage of "less is more"
> > applies.
> 
> I can sort of see this argument, but *only* if the QEMU process is being
> run under a dedicated, fully unprivileged (from a DAC pov) user, completely
> separate from anything else on the system.
>
> Or, of course, for a QEMU already confined by SELinux.

Agreed ... and considering at least one major distribution takes this approach 
it seems like reasonable functionality to me.  Confining QEMU, either through 
DAC and/or MAC, when faced with potentially malicious guests is just good 
sense.

-- 
paul moore
security and virtualization @ redhat

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-18 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-13 19:20 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv2 0/2] Sandboxing Qemu guests with Libseccomp Eduardo Otubo
2012-06-13 19:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv2 1/2] Adding support for libseccomp in configure Eduardo Otubo
2012-06-13 19:45   ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-13 19:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv2 2/2] Adding basic calls to libseccomp in vl.c Eduardo Otubo
2012-06-13 19:56   ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-13 20:33     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-06-15 19:04       ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-18  8:33         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-06-18 15:22           ` Corey Bryant
2012-06-18 20:18             ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-18 21:53               ` Corey Bryant
     [not found]                 ` <CABqD9hYKLf9D37XsF6nvNmtJ=0wJ39Yu_A-JeWxDJ_8haBmEWA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <4FE08025.6030406@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]                     ` <CABqD9ha32FAuikpDojzO91Jg8Q6VTY340LShKzpvTx6FN_uacQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-06-19 16:51                       ` Corey Bryant
2012-07-01 13:25                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-02  2:18                   ` Will Drewry
2012-07-02 14:20                     ` Corey Bryant
2012-06-13 20:30   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-06-15 19:06     ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-15 21:02       ` Paul Moore
2012-06-15 21:23         ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-15 21:36           ` Paul Moore
2012-06-16  6:46             ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-18 17:41               ` Corey Bryant
2012-06-19 11:04               ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-19 18:58                 ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-21  8:04                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <4FEB7A4D.7050608@redhat.com>
     [not found]                       ` <CAAu8pHtYmoJ7WCK7LAOj_j2YU-nAgiLTg7q4qXL3Vu-kPRpZnw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-07-02 18:05                         ` Corey Bryant
2012-07-03 19:15                           ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-15 21:44           ` Eric Blake
2012-06-18  8:31         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-06-18  8:38           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-06-18 13:52           ` Paul Moore [this message]
2012-06-18 13:55             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-06-18 14:02               ` Paul Moore
2012-06-18 20:13               ` Eduardo Otubo
2012-06-18 20:23                 ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-18 15:29           ` Corey Bryant
2012-06-18 20:15           ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-19  9:23             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-06-19 18:44               ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-18  8:26       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-06-13 20:37   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-06-13 20:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv2 0/2] Sandboxing Qemu guests with Libseccomp Paul Moore
2012-06-14 21:59   ` [Qemu-devel] [libseccomp-discuss] " Kees Cook
2012-06-15 13:54     ` Paul Moore
2012-10-29 15:11       ` Corey Bryant
2012-10-29 15:32         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-10-29 15:40           ` Paul Moore
2012-10-29 15:51             ` Corey Bryant

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