From: Laurent DESNOGUES <laurent.desnogues@wanadoo.fr>
To: Markus Schiltknecht <markus@bluegap.ch>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] ARM CPU Speed simulated by Qemu?
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:08:33 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <33074299.1158073713450.JavaMail.www@wwinf1515> (raw)
> > The most complex thing to accurately simulate a modern
> > CPU (including ARMs) is the data cache and by far.
>
> Hm... you have to elaborate on that one. Aren't those caches like other
> caches, too? With well known algorithms like LRU?
Data caches typically do many things in one cycle; for
instance, if you make a load, it could start looking in
a small area between the cache and the core (called
write or store buffer) and at the same time look into
the real cache to find the data; then depending on the
outcome, an external request could be started, this
cycle or later depending on previous requests still
pending. And this is a simple example ;)
On top of that try to find a specification for data
side behaviour, these beasts are not documented for
two reasons:
- they are heavily optimized and so not easily
described
- they often define the efficiency of a CPU and
so are considered as secret.
> Simulating branch prediction seems more complex to me (probably because
> I'm thinking x86, not ARM).
Branch prediction has become very complex on ARM
but not as much as data side.
Laurent
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-12 15:08 Laurent DESNOGUES [this message]
2006-09-12 15:19 ` [Qemu-devel] ARM CPU Speed simulated by Qemu? Markus Schiltknecht
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2006-09-12 15:26 Laurent DESNOGUES
2006-09-12 14:44 Laurent DESNOGUES
2006-09-12 14:58 ` Markus Schiltknecht
2006-09-12 17:42 ` K. Richard Pixley
2006-09-12 0:17 [Qemu-devel] Re: qemu-system-sparc video problem on 16 bitdisplays Stuart Brady
2006-09-12 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] ARM CPU Speed simulated by Qemu? Tieu Ma Dau
2006-09-12 11:03 ` nyos
2006-09-12 12:43 ` Paul Brook
2006-09-12 13:19 ` Markus Schiltknecht
2006-09-12 13:39 ` Paul Brook
2006-09-12 14:21 ` Markus Schiltknecht
2006-09-12 14:34 ` Paul Brook
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