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From: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>
To: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>, Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH 3/4] spapr: disable hotplugging without OS
Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 18:02:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33b6ab16-961b-2ba6-17b9-6667cd00a0fc@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170524175410.088f3285@bahia.ttt.fr.ibm.com>

On 24/05/2017 17:54, Greg Kurz wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:14:02 +0200
> Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 24 May 2017 11:28:57 +0200
>> Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 24 May 2017 15:07:54 +1000
>>> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 01:18:11PM +0200, Laurent Vivier wrote:    
>>>>> If the OS is not started, QEMU sends an event to the OS
>>>>> that is lost and cannot be recovered. An unplug is not
>>>>> able to restore QEMU in a coherent state.
>>>>> So, while the OS is not started, disable CPU and memory hotplug.
>>>>> We use option vector 6 to know if the OS is started
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>      
>>>>
>>>> Urgh.. I'm not terribly confident that this is really correct.  As
>>>> discussed on the previous patch, you're essentially using OV6 as a
>>>> flag that CAS is complete.
>>>>
>>>> But while it undoubtedly makes the race window much smaller, I don't
>>>> see that there's any guarantee the guest OS will really be able to
>>>> handle hotplug events immediately after CAS.
>>>>
>>>> In particular if the CAS process completes partially but then needs to
>>>> trigger a reboot, I think that would end up setting the ov6 variable,
>>>> but the OS would definitely not be in a state to accept events.  
>> wouldn't guest on reboot pick up updated fdt and online hotplugged
>> before crash cpu along with initial cpus?
>>
> 
> Yes and that's what actually happens with cpus.
> 
> But catching up with the background for this series, I have the
> impression that the issue isn't the fact we loose an event if the OS
> isn't started (which is not true), but more something wrong happening
> when hotplugging+unplugging memory as described in this commit:
> 
> commit fe6824d12642b005c69123ecf8631f9b13553f8b
> Author: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>
> Date:   Tue Mar 28 14:09:34 2017 +0200
> 
>     spapr: fix memory hot-unplugging
> 

Yes, this commit try to fix that, but it's not possible. Some objects
remain in memory: you can see with "info cpus" or "info memory-devices"
that they are not really removed, and this prevents to hotplug them
again, and moreover in the case of the memory hot-unplug we can rerun
the device_del and crash qemu (as before the fix).

Moreover all stuff normally cleared in detach() are not, and we can't do
it later in set_allocation_state() because some are in use by the
kernel, and this is the last call from the kernel.

Laurent

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-24 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-23 11:18 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] spapr: disable hotplugging without OS Laurent Vivier
2017-05-23 11:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] spapr: add pre_plug function for memory Laurent Vivier
2017-05-23 15:28   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Greg Kurz
2017-05-23 16:09     ` Laurent Vivier
2017-05-24  4:52       ` David Gibson
2017-05-24  9:55         ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-24 10:27           ` David Gibson
2017-05-23 11:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] spapr: add option vector 6 Laurent Vivier
2017-05-23 16:31   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Greg Kurz
2017-05-24  4:58   ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2017-05-23 11:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] spapr: disable hotplugging without OS Laurent Vivier
2017-05-24  5:07   ` David Gibson
2017-05-24  9:28     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Greg Kurz
2017-05-24 10:14       ` Igor Mammedov
2017-05-24 15:54         ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-24 16:02           ` Laurent Vivier [this message]
2017-05-24 17:40             ` Michael Roth
2017-05-25  3:16               ` David Gibson
2017-05-30 17:15                 ` Michael Roth
2017-05-31  6:36                   ` David Gibson
2017-05-25  2:49         ` David Gibson
2017-05-25  2:45       ` David Gibson
2017-05-23 11:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Revert "spapr: fix memory hot-unplugging" Laurent Vivier
2017-05-23 17:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH 0/4] spapr: disable hotplugging without OS Daniel Henrique Barboza
2017-05-23 18:07   ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2017-05-23 18:22     ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2017-05-23 19:42       ` Laurent Vivier

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