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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: "Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Camilla Conte" <cconte@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PULL 15/42] tests/functional: enable pre-emptive caching of assets
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:54:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <340ed154-86d8-45da-bc81-5e1ebb8af8f4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90b56207-a602-454f-9d3a-82de83a8f2a8@linaro.org>

On 27/11/2024 19.02, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On 11/27/24 00:29, Thomas Huth wrote:
>> On 26/11/2024 23.54, Richard Henderson wrote:
>>> On 11/26/24 11:52, Thomas Huth wrote:
>>>> I think we want to continue to maek failing downloads as test failures, 
>>>> otherwise we'll never notice when an asset is not available from the 
>>>> internet anymore (since SKIPs just get ignored).
>>>
>>> I disagree.  Download failures are not rare.
>>
>> That's not what I said / meant. Sure, servers can have hiccups and 
>> downloads can fail, but that's what we have the cache for. So having a 
>> working cache is essential.
>>
>> OTOH, if you simply mark tests as SKIP if the download fail, we'll likely 
>> miss if an asset vanishes completely, since some people already have it in 
>> their cache and the remaining people will likely just ignore skipped tests.
> If the cache is populated, we will *not* miss if an asset vanishes, because 
> we won't ever try the URL.

Well, we'll notice it as soon as people run the tests that don't have the 
asset in their cache yet.

> If the cache is unpopulated, and the download fails, then we cannot run the 
> test. Indicating FAIL is *useless* because there's nothing that we can do 
> about it, and we also skip additional tests that CI could be running.

Thinking about it for a little bit longer, I think we might rather want to 
distinguish the different failures that can occur during download. If we get 
a 404 error, it means that the asset has completely vanished and thus the 
test is broken, i.e. that's the case when we want to have a real error, I think.

But if the server is just not responding or gives a 5xx (like 503 or 504) 
server error, the failure is likely just a temporary one and we should skip 
the test instead. Does that sound acceptable to you? If so, I can look into 
creating a patch for this.

  Thomas



  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-28  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-04 10:38 [PULL 00/42] Introduce new functional test framework Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 01/42] tests/avocado: machine aarch64: standardize location and RO access Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 02/42] tests/avocado/boot_xen.py: fetch kernel during test setUp() Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 03/42] tests/avocado/machine_aarch64_sbsaref.py: allow for rw usage of image Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 04/42] Bump avocado to 103.0 Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 05/42] tests/avocado/avocado_qemu: Fix the "from" statements in linuxtest.py Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 06/42] tests/avocado/boot_linux_console: Remove the s390x subtest Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 07/42] python: Install pycotap in our venv if necessary Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 08/42] tests/functional: Add base classes for the upcoming pytest-based tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 09/42] tests/functional: Set up logging Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 10/42] tests/Makefile.include: Increase the level of indentation in the help text Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 11/42] tests/functional: Prepare the meson build system for the functional tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 12/42] tests/functional: Convert simple avocado tests into standalone python tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 13/42] tests/functional: Convert avocado tests that just need a small adjustment Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 14/42] tests/functional: add a module for handling asset download & caching Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 15/42] tests/functional: enable pre-emptive caching of assets Thomas Huth
2024-11-26 16:44   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-11-26 16:45     ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-26 17:26       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-26 17:31     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-26 17:46       ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-26 17:52         ` Thomas Huth
2024-11-26 17:56           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-26 21:17             ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-26 22:54           ` Richard Henderson
2024-11-27  6:29             ` Thomas Huth
2024-11-27 18:02               ` Richard Henderson
2024-11-28  9:54                 ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2024-11-28  9:58                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-27  9:06             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-27 18:31               ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-11-28  9:34                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-28 17:25                   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-11-28 17:57                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 16/42] tests/functional: Allow asset downloading with concurrent threads Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 17/42] tests/functional: Convert some tests that download files via fetch_asset() Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 18/42] tests/functional: Add a function for extracting files from an archive Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 19/42] tests/functional: Convert some avocado tests that needed avocado.utils.archive Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 20/42] tests/functional: Convert the s390x avocado tests into standalone tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 21/42] tests/functional: Convert the x86_cpu_model_versions test Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 22/42] tests/functional: Convert the microblaze avocado tests into standalone tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 23/42] tests/functional: Convert the virtio_gpu avocado test into a standalone test Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:38 ` [PULL 24/42] tests/functional: Convert most ppc avocado tests into standalone tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 25/42] tests/functional: Convert the ppc_amiga avocado test into a standalone test Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 26/42] tests/functional: Convert the ppc_hv " Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 27/42] tests/functional: Convert the m68k nextcube test with tesseract Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 28/42] tests/functional: Convert the acpi-bits test into a standalone test Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 29/42] tests/functional: Convert the rx_gdbsim avocado " Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 30/42] tests/functional: Convert the linux_initrd " Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 31/42] tests/functional: Convert ARM Integrator/CP avocado tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 32/42] tests/functional: Convert Aarch64 SBSA-Ref " Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 33/42] tests/functional: Convert Aarch64 Virt machine " Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 34/42] tests/functional: Convert mips64el Fuloong2e avocado test (1/2) Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 35/42] tests/functional: Add QemuUserTest class Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 36/42] tests/functional: Convert ARM bFLT linux-user avocado test Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 37/42] tests/avocado: Remove unused QemuUserTest class Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 38/42] gitlab-ci: Add "check-functional" to the build tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 39/42] docs/devel: Split testing docs from the build docs and move to separate folder Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 40/42] docs/devel/testing: Split the Avocado documentation into a separate file Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 41/42] docs/devel/testing: Rename avocado_qemu.Test class Thomas Huth
2024-09-04 10:39 ` [PULL 42/42] docs/devel/testing: Add documentation for functional tests Thomas Huth
2024-09-06 11:32 ` [PULL 00/42] Introduce new functional test framework Peter Maydell

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